Dear CC mtb rider nr 888 on the 55km riute

[BenReaper]

I agree with the OP to a certain point,I take it the rider in question and his mate were riding two abreast,blocking the trail so that the OP couldnt pass and then getting angry when asked to get out of the way.

 

This also irretates me,you get these guys who payed the entry fee like everyone else and now feels that he owns the trail for the day and can ride anyway he wants regardless of other people sharing trail.

 

On the other hand you do get people who are very inpatient in these races who expect others to always be on the lookout for them and move out of the way in advance for them to pass....this is also not youre race.

 

In the end I think people should start being more considirate of each other and less self centered and self entitled.We all share this world,lets not act like we own it.

[Heel Drop]

Ja this guy was next to me, maybe half a bike length ahead and swerved across back and forth wile sipping and chatting. We where both in the race.

maybe he had a hard week and were drinking to get over his problems - I hope you at least asked the guy what the reason was for his swerving. Understanding his reason may have altered your response and the chain of events and actions following this tragic icedent that may possibly get him no time or worse even banned from the next two races via a yellow card - this world is SICK

[Heel Drop]

I am juts glad it wasnt rider 666

['Dale]

I am juts glad it wasnt rider 666

 

Hehehe

[canfan]

I am juts glad it wasnt rider 666

No man. It was a mtb race. Eveyone knows he is a roadie;-)

[No Hare]

You do realize that you are not allowed to pass within one meter of a cyclist....

Thanks Heel Drop and Dr. Dick for thinking outside the box. I here they call it cloud thinking these days. 

[EmptyB]

Thanks Heel Drop and Dr. Dick for thinking outside the box. I here they call it cloud thinking these days.

 

I hear you over here.....

[Dicky DQ]

If I am in front of you it is my line and you should not be half-wheeling me anyway. I never understand the logic of shouting Keep/hold your line. So which line is it the new one I just took that may mean that I take out the whole bunch?

 

Anyway, what are you doing sitting in my slip. If you want the luxury of the slip you need to be awake. I know what I am talking about here, as I broke a few ribs and my collarbone being asleep in the slip. It was no one's fault but my own, not the guy in front of me no matter what his negligence was.

 

So If you give me attitude nd you are behind me, believe me I will give you a mouthful too. My language may possibly not be as vulgar as what you experienced, but you will get it.

[Guest Smimby]

Can you really expect someone to "hold a line" on a MTB? There is NO LINE of the road.

 

I dont get near another rider on a MTB ride/race because they can hit sand or a rock at any moment and their bike can move sideways.

 

Unfortunately OP I think that you were too close to the rider.

 

For him swearing, well that is another story.

[V12man]

Inform fellow rider to FOCUS.........../:-)

This is easily achieved - just reach across during the passing manouver and grab one of his brake levers - this generates FOCUS quickly....

 

Of course the end result is slightly more traumatic with disc's than with caliper brakes.... but FOCUS will be assured for a brief moment..... :ph34r:

[rouxtjie]

waaaaahaaaaa hold your line on a mtb....leon schuster is that you?

[JGR]

To the OP - why was a such a misguided rider ahead of you? Could you have not waiting until he had his sip of water and then passed? Taking in some water on a MTB race on uneven terrain can be difficult.

 

How sure are you that your shouting hold your line ect was not equally as rude to him?

 

Perhaps you could also consider the timing of our over taking move as well as the safety issues that come with that?

 

Have you ever tried asking - can I pass when its safe or you have a moment?

[Odinson]

My 1.5c.

 

When there are slower riders in front of me - when on singletrack - I'll make sure the rider knows I'm behind them (usually by freewheeling for a few seconds) and when it's safe to pass, I'll say "passing on the right" and accelerate by. 

 

However, when you're riding on dual tracks, keep left and pass right. Simple as that. Don't ride two abreast during an MTB race. 

 

To the OP, you have to signal your intention to the person you're passing. Just shouting "keep your line" will confuse everyone. Which line are you referring to? Your "line" is constantly changing. If the person knows you'll be passing on the right, they'll know to keep left, if possible. 

[GLuvsMtb]

Context is also important here. 

Were you racing for position, or going hell for leather to try and miss the cut-off? 

If you are not racing for position, then pass when it is safe. 

Was it a lap-format race and you were lapping the rider? 

Were you perhaps agitated at that point with not getting a good seeding, getting to the start, waiting in the chute, congestion when the gun went off, more congestion on the trail and all the good snacks being gone at the water point? 

Did you miss your target finish time due to a 15 or 20 second delay? 

Did you try to engage in a polite manner or did you perhaps come across as impatient or rude. Anyone shouting keep left / keep your line will get some very wide elbows from me while someone asking to pass when it is safe will get a "ok, I'll go left up ahead and you pass on the right (left being the racing line, and right being a safe place for the guy to pass)" 

I will also give the guy the best chance of passing by slowing down a fraction, but I will not forfeit the racing line. If you need to pass, you take the risk and you expend the energy. 

 

If you perhaps handled the situation differently you may have actually woken up today thinking about a nice ride rather than still fuming over something that seems to have been mostly your fault. 

 

I do not condone the verbal abuse you got, but it seems like you initiated / aggravated the situation with the way you were riding and acting. 

[GLuvsMtb]

My 1.5c.

 

When there are slower riders in front of me - when on singletrack - I'll make sure the rider knows I'm behind them (usually by freewheeling for a few seconds) and when it's safe to pass, I'll say "passing on the right" and accelerate by. 

 

However, when you're riding on dual tracks, keep left and pass right. Simple as that. Don't ride two abreast during an MTB race. 

 

To the OP, you have to signal your intention to the person you're passing. Just shouting "keep your line" will confuse everyone. Which line are you referring to? Your "line" is constantly changing. If the person knows you'll be passing on the right, they'll know to keep left, if possible. 

you better hope that the right is the non-racing line, otherwise you'll be in for a disappointment. I only revert to the "passing left / passing right" if my first attempt to get you to allow me through did not succeed. 

[Patchelicious]

My 1.5c.

 

When there are slower riders in front of me - when on singletrack - I'll make sure the rider knows I'm behind them (usually by freewheeling for a few seconds) and when it's safe to pass, I'll say "passing on the right" and accelerate by. 

 

However, when you're riding on dual tracks, keep left and pass right. Simple as that. Don't ride two abreast during an MTB race. 

 

To the OP, you have to signal your intention to the person you're passing. Just shouting "keep your line" will confuse everyone. Which line are you referring to? Your "line" is constantly changing. If the person knows you'll be passing on the right, they'll know to keep left, if possible. 

I agree with you here. Jeep track chatters need to keep to one side.

On the single track, just communicate, politely, let the guys know you are there, people cannot see behind them, and looking back is even more dangerous.

 

Key here is polite communications about your position and an indication of intent to pass and which side, then commit to pass....

 

Even on the road on training rides, I have no issue with guys sucking my wheel, just let me know that you are there, if you don't and I sit up not knowing you are there and you ride into me, I will not be impressed.