GLuvsMtb Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 It can be serviced at any bike shop where the shop is prepared to buy the tools and send the technician for training .Can they use generic seals etc?
Wyatt Earp Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Can they use generic seals etc?Not sure what point you are trying to drive home, but lot's of parts in that fork can be bought as generic.The needle bearings and sliders obviously from Cannonade as well as the boot. Same as Rock Shox, Fox, Marzocchi et al.The Brain has buggerall mystique about it, Specialized on the other hand make as if only gilded hands can touch the stuff.
GLuvsMtb Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 Not sure what point you are trying to drive home, but lot's of parts in that fork can be bought as generic.The needle bearings and sliders obviously from Cannonade as well as the boot. Same as Rock Shox, Fox, Marzocchi et al.The Brain has buggerall mystique about it, Specialized on the other hand make as if only gilded hands can touch the stuff.everything has a certain level of IP or Proprietism. You pick the level you are comfortable with. To have my Spesh serviced takes no longer and is not that much more expensive than 'regular' bikes. So what if it goes to Stellenbosch and comes back the next day? At least its not a case of 'the shop phoning the courrier, phoning Omnico, phoning the rep' if there is an issue. If it bothered me I would have asked to put an RP23 on my Stumpy, problem solved.
Wyatt Earp Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 everything has a certain level of IP or Proprietism. You pick the level you are comfortable with. To have my Spesh serviced takes no longer and is not that much more expensive than 'regular' bikes. So what if it goes to Stellenbosch and comes back the next day? At least its not a case of 'the shop phoning the courrier, phoning Omnico, phoning the rep' if there is an issue. If it bothered me I would have asked to put an RP23 on my Stumpy, problem solved.It's OK, you are vehemently supportive of the brand and bike you bought in to.If only it went to Stellenbosch and came back the next day, this is never the case. Their service fee is also much higher than other rear shocks.Where you are now, many were there 5 years back and longer.Everyone eventually gets over it. I forgot to add, with your brain shock it's a case of the shop filling out a form, removing your rear shock, then they have to clean it and box it with said forms, that gets followed up by an e-mail to Stellies, the Stellie staff call or mail the couriers for a collection, it gets sent overnight at which it arrives the next day and if they are very busy, which is very much the case nowadays because they just have too much work, it goes in to a queue, the service centre then call the shop if there is an issue, the shop then calls the client and informs them that either it's gonna cost more because the service intervals were not adhered to or the service centre by just looking at the shock can tell you how many hours it's done, just one vicious circle .
Hairy Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 It's OK, you are vehemently supportive of the brand and bike you bought in to.If only it went to Stellenbosch and came back the next day, this is never the case. Their service fee is also much higher than other rear shocks.Where you are now, many were there 5 years back and longer.Everyone eventually gets over it. I forgot to add, with your brain shock it's a case of the shop filling out a form, removing your rear shock, then they have to clean it and box it with said forms, that gets followed up by an e-mail to Stellies, the Stellie staff call or mail the couriers for a collection, it gets sent overnight at which it arrives the next day and if they are very busy, which is very much the case nowadays because they just have too much work, it goes in to a queue, the service centre then call the shop if there is an issue, the shop then calls the client and informs them that either it's gonna cost more because the service intervals were not adhered to or the service centre by just looking at the shock can tell you how many hours it's done, just one vicious circle .That centre sevices all of Africa s brain suspension. When I viewed it, they had a whole cabinet filed with rear cans striped down and cleaned ready for a rebuild. Workshop looks like a lab. Been to omnico, Fox service center looks worse than my garage. ....But a few of my lbs's are allowed to work on fox suspension and their work shops look great.
L.T.G Posted March 21, 2015 Author Posted March 21, 2015 I'm so ill right now .... *cough*cough*sneeze*take my temperature *
Wyatt Earp Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 That centre sevices all of Africa s brain suspension.When I viewed it, they had a whole cabinet filed with rear cans striped down and cleaned ready for a rebuild.Workshop looks like a lab.Been to omnico, Fox service center looks worse than my garage. ....But a few of my lbs's are allowed to work on fox suspension and their work shops look great.I think I kinda know that.Even though it's neat and clean and looks like a lab, it's still too much work for the amount they get in.
GLuvsMtb Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 It's OK, you are vehemently supportive of the brand and bike you bought in to.If only it went to Stellenbosch and came back the next day, this is never the case. Their service fee is also much higher than other rear shocks.Where you are now, many were there 5 years back and longer.Everyone eventually gets over it. I forgot to add, with your brain shock it's a case of the shop filling out a form, removing your rear shock, then they have to clean it and box it with said forms, that gets followed up by an e-mail to Stellies, the Stellie staff call or mail the couriers for a collection, it gets sent overnight at which it arrives the next day and if they are very busy, which is very much the case nowadays because they just have too much work, it goes in to a queue, the service centre then call the shop if there is an issue, the shop then calls the client and informs them that either it's gonna cost more because the service intervals were not adhered to or the service centre by just looking at the shock can tell you how many hours it's done, just one vicious circle . 5 years ago I took my bikes apart, sourced the bearings from bearingman, changed the seals on my fork myself, did my own brake bleeds, cable changes and pivot changes. Since then I got married, promoted at work and started a family. Now I drop my bike off on Monday morning and pick it up on Wednesday afternoon for a service (rear shock with brain serviced). I drive a car that when it goes for a service, they have a courtesy car ready for me. I don't know how to jump start it as I have roadside assistance. If I fly overseas I'll gladly pay extra for a direct flight. I take the luxury tent option at W2W. If that makes me 'soft' or 'clueless' or 'all the gear but no idea' so be it. It works for me and allows me to balance work, social, family, spiritual and training elements in a way that makes me happy. If that means that I now fit into the likes of Hairy's generalised picture of a Spesh rider its also ok. Who knows, perhaps in 5 years time Spesh will have a loan bike ready when my trusty steed goes in for a service. The haters will still hate and I will hopefully still ride my bike for the same reasons I started this adventure almost 10 years ago.
GoLefty!! Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 They have a huge R&D budget. They were early adopters of the 29 inch wheel size, carbon frames, through axles at the rear, innovated tech such as the brain damper and refined suspension design etc. If they had to suddenly become a charity that only breaks even, they would not be refining their frame designs almost annually. They offer a choice on their proprietary tech to a degree as can be seen at the Epic with the mens team riding the RS-1 and the ladies a more conventional fork You mean they got into 29 before Trek (Fisher) and Niner? Wow. You mean they were doing full carbon frames before Cannondale (2007) and Trek (2007) You mean they invented platform damping before Curnett and its licensee Manitou (SPV somewhere around 2001/2 - brain was first seen in 2003 model year on a rear shock) You mean no one else was refining suspension design before Spez....??? Fook wow just incredible how armchair cyclists and Spez fans can rewrite history and believe it.
GoLefty!! Posted March 21, 2015 Posted March 21, 2015 5 years ago I took my bikes apart, sourced the bearings from bearingman, changed the seals on my fork myself, did my own brake bleeds, cable changes and pivot changes. Since then I got married, promoted at work and started a family. Now I drop my bike off on Monday morning and pick it up on Wednesday afternoon for a service (rear shock with brain serviced). I drive a car that when it goes for a service, they have a courtesy car ready for me. I don't know how to jump start it as I have roadside assistance. If I fly overseas I'll gladly pay extra for a direct flight. I take the luxury tent option at W2W. If that makes me 'soft' or 'clueless' or 'all the gear but no idea' so be it. It works for me and allows me to balance work, social, family, spiritual and training elements in a way that makes me happy. If that means that I now fit into the likes of Hairy's generalised picture of a Spesh rider its also ok. Who knows, perhaps in 5 years time Spesh will have a loan bike ready when my trusty steed goes in for a service. The haters will still hate and I will hopefully still ride my bike for the same reasons I started this adventure almost 10 years ago. you ride....??
_David_ Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Peter Sagan and his new bike before Milan-San Remo :-)
carbon29er Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 Let me just re-balance this thread - Nice expensive, well produced ads, no doubt. But does balance come from paid propaganda? I can see how Spesh is the best ever bike brand from this story:Mark Cavendish won the World Championship in 2011 on a Specialized.http://www.bicycling.com/sites/bicycling.com/files/articles/2014/09/Mark-Cavendish-World-Champion-Road.jpg At the end of that year he moved to Sky. Where he was transformed, into a new role on his new bike.http://keyassets.timeincuk.net/inspirewp/live/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2012/07/tdf12st7_cav_bottles.jpg Clearly, it's all about the bike! Now he's back on a Specialized he can wear the "S" skin suit, no pockets needed.http://cdn.velonews.competitor.com/files/2014/12/SPTDW005-660x440.jpg
Hairy Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 I think I kinda know that.Even though it's neat and clean and looks like a lab, it's still too much work for the amount they get in.sorry, that was meant for others info who might not know
Hairy Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 5 years ago I took my bikes apart, sourced the bearings from bearingman, changed the seals on my fork myself, did my own brake bleeds, cable changes and pivot changes. Since then I got married, promoted at work and started a family. Now I drop my bike off on Monday morning and pick it up on Wednesday afternoon for a service (rear shock with brain serviced). I drive a car that when it goes for a service, they have a courtesy car ready for me. I don't know how to jump start it as I have roadside assistance. If I fly overseas I'll gladly pay extra for a direct flight. I take the luxury tent option at W2W. If that makes me 'soft' or 'clueless' or 'all the gear but no idea' so be it. It works for me and allows me to balance work, social, family, spiritual and training elements in a way that makes me happy. If that means that I now fit into the likes of Hairy's generalised picture of a Spesh rider its also ok. Who knows, perhaps in 5 years time Spesh will have a loan bike ready when my trusty steed goes in for a service. The haters will still hate and I will hopefully still ride my bike for the same reasons I started this adventure almost 10 years ago.not "my" generalisation! But thats alot of info about you in that post
Johny Bravo Posted March 22, 2015 Posted March 22, 2015 No matter what any of you haters say. In the coming weeks, Spez will sell mountain bikes like hotcakes after the Epic. Went to Meerendal today to watch the final stage. I would say at least 60 percent of the field were on Spez. From the winners to the very last riders. Car manufacturers have known this for years, win on the Sunday, sell on the Monday.
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