Disylizzy Posted December 9, 2014 Share ... and in the small print it say that the trail has to be affiliated to AMA? I don't think you'd have to be affiliated with AMA. Rogue riding is something that all trails are dealing with. So people will be more willing to put together a centralised database with no cost. It will benefit everyone, especially with building good relationships with prospective landowners Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/145783-rogue-riders-need-assistance-identifying/page/7/#findComment-2499068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smimby Posted December 9, 2014 Share Sorry, but I cannot sing kum-ba-ja about these types of proposals. I have to question on how this would actually work and who would end up paying for this. You diss the idea because all the technicalities have not been ironed out? It is an IDEA, people then need to take that idea and build on it etc etc..... Think how you have a sandwich, you have an idea....peanut butter maybe, then you have to get the bread and decide do I toast it or not? Do I want butter or not.... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/145783-rogue-riders-need-assistance-identifying/page/7/#findComment-2499070 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smimby Posted December 9, 2014 Share Sorry, but I cannot sing kum-ba-ja about these types of proposals. I have to question on how this would actually work and who would end up paying for this. double posted :-( Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/145783-rogue-riders-need-assistance-identifying/page/7/#findComment-2499072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smimby Posted December 9, 2014 Share ... and in the small print it say that the trail has to be affiliated to AMA? Glass half empty again? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/145783-rogue-riders-need-assistance-identifying/page/7/#findComment-2499078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoveMyRide Posted December 9, 2014 Share I think take an ad out about rogue riders, use a few pics of riders including these two. Ask the question, can you guess who is riding illegally? and then state the seriousness regarding the law jail term etc with regards to trespassing, or even that trespassers will be shot!! One has to be brutal these day as no one gives a )(*(^(*&*^&*^( about the law and will just laugh in your faceWell said. The total disregard for authority or respect for civil society and the space that we share needs to be addressed, like it is here. Broken window policy. We need to S#$t the small stuff to address the bigger issues. Littering is another one. Shocking how supposedly educated family people teach their kids to litter. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/145783-rogue-riders-need-assistance-identifying/page/7/#findComment-2499081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLuvsMtb Posted December 9, 2014 Share You diss the idea because all the technicalities have not been ironed out? It is an IDEA, people then need to take that idea and build on it etc etc..... Think how you have a sandwich, you have an idea....peanut butter maybe, then you have to get the bread and decide do I toast it or not? Do I want butter or not....I question things. It is the only way to improve things. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/145783-rogue-riders-need-assistance-identifying/page/7/#findComment-2499083 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smimby Posted December 9, 2014 Share I question things. It is the only way to improve things. Maybe not, but lets get more and more ideas and put them on the table and evaluate each one rather than diss them right upfront. There are many ideas I am sure.....but if everyone one get shot down right upfront people will stop sharing ideas here. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/145783-rogue-riders-need-assistance-identifying/page/7/#findComment-2499091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLuvsMtb Posted December 9, 2014 Share Maybe not, but lets get more and more ideas and put them on the table and evaluate each one rather than diss them right upfront. There are many ideas I am sure.....but if everyone one get shot down right upfront people will stop sharing ideas here.I have tried to be constructive with my comments. Our interpretation of 'dissing' clearly differs. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/145783-rogue-riders-need-assistance-identifying/page/7/#findComment-2499095 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capricorn Posted December 9, 2014 Share trail tags: its listed against riders names: its a central d'base. Bans can be added to that d'base to flag event entries as non-permissible. That automagically kicks transgressors out of all registered events for that tag. In fact, the d'base can feed into d'bases for all other tag systems. One or two will always slip through non-race events, but their involvement is severely constrained at the race level. I've always liked the idea of snapscan like payments for day entries, instead of prancing around with a silly board. But i do understand there's always that 'element' that will take advantage of systems based on trust. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/145783-rogue-riders-need-assistance-identifying/page/7/#findComment-2499097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Smimby Posted December 9, 2014 Share I have tried to be constructive with my comments. Our interpretation of 'dissing' clearly differs. Maybe, just remember that someone "perception" is their reality.... Something that I work on myself...... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/145783-rogue-riders-need-assistance-identifying/page/7/#findComment-2499107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mousea Posted December 9, 2014 Share I used to carry my board in my camelbak as I have multiple bikes. I got kakked on from a dizzy height so now I have hundreds of cable ties.Get pipe cleaners. as in smoking a pipe.easy to twist on and off for multiple bike or trail use Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/145783-rogue-riders-need-assistance-identifying/page/7/#findComment-2499113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Omega Man Posted December 9, 2014 Share Well said. The total disregard for authority or respect for civil society and the space that we share needs to be addressed, like it is here. Broken window policy. We need to S#$t the small stuff to address the bigger issues. Littering is another one. Shocking how supposedly educated family people teach their kids to litter. This isn't just a Mountain biking thing. It seems to be a particularly South African Phenomenon. The rules only apply to the people on the other end of my pointing finger. I'll overtake on a solid white lineI'll skip red traffic lightsI'll pay a metro cop a bribeI'll lie on my tax returnI'll ride illegally on my 80k bike But I'm still going to bitch about government corruption and failing infrastructure. This problem is a lot bigger than two eggs on toothpicks riding illegally in Bloemendal I'm afraid. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/145783-rogue-riders-need-assistance-identifying/page/7/#findComment-2499119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hellwarp Posted December 9, 2014 Share The ban on someone rogue riding is no longer an "idea". It has been discussed and accepted by virtually all trail and event stakeholders in the Western Cape. Just a matter of time before someone finds themself unable to join a trail system or take part in events. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/145783-rogue-riders-need-assistance-identifying/page/7/#findComment-2499121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted December 9, 2014 Share The ban on someone rogue riding is no longer an "idea". It has been discussed and accepted by virtually all trail and event stakeholders in the Western Cape. Just a matter of time before someone finds themself unable to join a trail system or take part in events.Yep, it has been. I just don't know of anybody who's been added to the list yet. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/145783-rogue-riders-need-assistance-identifying/page/7/#findComment-2499132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted December 9, 2014 Share This isn't just a Mountain biking thing. It seems to be a particularly South African Phenomenon. The rules only apply to the people on the other end of my pointing finger. I'll overtake on a solid white lineI'll skip red traffic lightsI'll pay a metro cop a bribeI'll lie on my tax returnI'll ride illegally on my 80k bike etc Etc. and:take short cuts over berms / corners on the spruit single track Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/145783-rogue-riders-need-assistance-identifying/page/7/#findComment-2499133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGR Posted December 9, 2014 Share I question things. It is the only way to improve things.Question nothing, fall for everything. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/145783-rogue-riders-need-assistance-identifying/page/7/#findComment-2499145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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