marko35s Posted December 31, 2014 Share Where you riding in the 90's?! Ooh ouch, you sir are catty, but as I'm trying to get a discount on your pedals I shall continue pretending to like you And it will be a while before Ben fits on a 29'er, but maybe not so long before he overtakes you Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/7/#findComment-2509141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
pierre- Posted December 31, 2014 Share I've said it before, it's the lycra clad dirt roadies visiting the mountain. The non greeting / serious types.People need to leave their bad attitudes on the road. Yup, budgie smuggling wagon wheeler dirt roadie for sure. Probably moved down from Joburg boet Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/7/#findComment-2509152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted December 31, 2014 Share Wazzup my wiggas, all I could pick up is that the Holy V has an issue with single speeders, happy new year all and go well or let the chest swell . Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/7/#findComment-2509155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted December 31, 2014 Share Wow bud, quite a few chips there. Firstly, who are all these Spruit Rats? Is it a gang? Is there a membership card? And then where has any of this bunch called it their Spruit as you keep quoting? Lastly, I read the thread you're talking about and all I saw was a request to follow general trail etiquette, not an order. Don't get so insecure. If you've been riding a while I'm sure you understand how to respect a trail, any trail, that's been built through sweat and pain by a handful of dedicated folk for the benefit of ALL.Oh the river, please cryeth it for me thy brethren ....... Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/7/#findComment-2509158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
J∆kk∆ls Posted December 31, 2014 Share Some riders just don't respect the laws of inertia...or a 15kg+ rig at that! Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/7/#findComment-2509170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Stuart Posted December 31, 2014 Share Oh the river, please cryeth it for me thy brethren .......I luff it when you sing Justin Timberlake to me Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/7/#findComment-2509171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wyatt Earp Posted December 31, 2014 Share I luff it when you sing Justin Timberlake to meIt keeps the girls calm . Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/7/#findComment-2509178 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Stuart Posted December 31, 2014 Share It keeps the girls calm .Like audio Rohypnol. I hear you brother Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/7/#findComment-2509181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted December 31, 2014 Share 'you downhillers' am I overly sensitive or does this seem kinda prejudice?Seriously, depending on just how condescending his tone was I might have been offended enough to klap him. It just seems like a *** attitude to have against mense. Makes me question ones character regarding more serious issues. Leave it to one of you skollie downhillers to resort to violence. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/7/#findComment-2509213 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted December 31, 2014 Share Wazzup my wiggas, all I could pick up is that the Holy V has an issue with single speeders, happy new year all and go well or let the chest swell . http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo297/Matt-Jeevas/ScreamWazzzup.jpg Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/7/#findComment-2509215 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted December 31, 2014 Share Where you riding in the 90's?! Can I blow your mind even more? There the 3.5" versions.... pre glory hole! Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/7/#findComment-2509221 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky DQ Posted December 31, 2014 Share You were riding UP the trail known as DH2 at about 4h15 / 4h30 this afternoon, on your Bianchi Methanol (kick-ass bike, btw) and myself and Marko35s confronted you and informed you that the trail in question was categorised as a mono-directional trail, and as such it was against the rules of the trail system (and by extension TMNP) to ride up said trails. Despite at various points trying to explain that it was both dangerous and against the rules to be riding up a Downhill Only trail, you continued to raise your voice and accuse us of being "gods of the mountain" and "downhillers" and accuse us of creating an "us and them" environment whereby only downhillers needs are seen to. Unfortunately, your instant reaction upon being confronted was one of righteous indignation, arrogance, entitlement and shock at being told that you cannot ride up a trail designated as Downhill only. Your instant attitude was one of aggression, repeatedly telling us that you were "not afraid of us", "don't care how big we are", "do this all the time" and "just want us to all work together" Despite your protestations and attempts at justification (which were numerous) the fact remains that you were riding up a trail that people descend without the expectation of having someone in their way, coming in the opposite direction. The average speed of the majority of riders that come down there does hit 50 plus KPH (the top rider does that entire trail in just 20 seconds) and if you were to encounter someone coming down said trail, there is no way in hell you would hear and / or see them in time in order to react and pull out the trail (despite how experienced you say you are) Now, I know you took none of what Mark & I said to heart, as your opinion of yourself was entirely too inflated in order to accept that you were doing something wrong and were at fault. Despite that, what you are is a typical case study in why this country is going to the dogs. A blatant disregard for the rules of the trail that you (may not, come to think of it) pay to ride, as well as an increasing level of self entitlement which causes you to think that you can do anything without being confronted, as long as you have the louder voice and can try to justify your actions to a level that you think that your actions are okay. The excuses which we were given were, amongst others: I always do itIt's the best trail to test your ascending technical skillsYou're experienced, and can move out the way in time for those coming downYou ride without music, so can hear people comingIt's god's country, and we should all be able to enjoy itI (as in me) am a downhiller, so I'm only looking out for Downhillers (I'm not a downhiller, btw - I just ride)Who makes up the rules? I didn't sign up for them (you did, actually, when you paid for your annual pass - which I'm assuming you have, btw)It's quietI paid to ride hereYou're 57 and you don't care what the rules are (followed by "I just want us all to get along")You ride where you want to...We're doing more damage by pushing our bikes up the trails (we weren't, btw - we pushed up the jeep track as it's much easier. We push up NEXT to the trail when we go to the top of a downhill section) Etc etc. See, the thing is (whatever your name is) - what we tried to say (repeatedly, and every time we said it your voice just got louder and you interrupted us more often) is that you can NOT ride up a trail designated as Downhill Only. End of story. Directionality is one of the few things that maintains order in trail systems, and is shown on the Tokai MTB website, the entry board to the park (designated as highly technical downhill trails) and in signposts on the mountain itself. In your own words, you've previously come up against folks like us who have told you that what you are doing is wrong. Despite that, you continued to do it. Ignorance is not a justification, as by your own words you have been riding there for more than 4 years. The reason you cannot ride up a downhill only trail is that it is dangerous. Not from a technical perspective, but for one single reason. Riders do not expect you to be coming in the opposite direction. As such, they are not looking out for riders ascending, and when they come down at 30 / 40 / 50 kph they will have to take drastic avoiding action and by all likelihood end up injuring not only themselves, but also you in the process. It's the same reason that driving the wrong way down a 1-way street is in no way justifiable. I do hope this gets to you, and that you calm your horses (and sense of entitlement - the force is strong on that one) However - I do regret my profanity - at the time, that was the only way that I could get you to shut up and let me speak, besides just talking louder than you. Whatever your name is, know this. You are not only endangering other riders, you are endangering the access to the park itself. If we (as mountain bikers) cannot adhere to the rules of the park, our attempts to better our relationship with the park and lobby for additional trail (yes, the committee is lobbying for a dedicated climbing trail with suitable technicality, linking up all the trails, but you didn't let us get to that, did you) and all the work over the past year is for naught. But, at the end. I hope you do not continue to ride up the trails designated as down only. If only to prevent somebody from ploughing into you (on bike or fist) in the very near future... Whoa, glad it was not me But I agree with you bi is bi and uni is uni. Failing to follow these simple rules will result in serious ........ consequences. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/7/#findComment-2509225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko35s Posted December 31, 2014 Share You guys did a lot of "confronting"... which words did you use potty mouth... did you drop some F-BOMBS!!!!?...AHOLES..??? because that's ok... but if you called him a cant I would be very disappointed in you Sir.. no need to talk like that... you "cant" go there on the mount-ain bruMade me think of this Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/7/#findComment-2509228 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie NL Posted December 31, 2014 Share LOL. Just got back, and opened a beer. Little one and wiffie at gym, swimming... That's the spirit!! Felt compelled to follow your outstanding lead on this one and am on 2nd frostie now. Trail stess feels soooooo far away now Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/7/#findComment-2509231 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie NL Posted December 31, 2014 Share Wow bud, quite a few chips there. Firstly, who are all these Spruit Rats? Is it a gang? Is there a membership card? And then where has any of this bunch called it their Spruit as you keep quoting? Lastly, I read the thread you're talking about and all I saw was a request to follow general trail etiquette, not an order. Don't get so insecure. If you've been riding a while I'm sure you understand how to respect a trail, any trail, that's been built through sweat and pain by a handful of dedicated folk for the benefit of ALL.Being a roadie I am always told the MTB scene is soo mucn more chilled So WTF went wrong here??? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/7/#findComment-2509232 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky DQ Posted December 31, 2014 Share I'm not buying until I hear Dick's side of the storySorry only got to this comment now. See my other post. Good to see I am still top of mind; for what was that again? Hope I got the punctuation correct. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/7/#findComment-2509235 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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