Ozzie NL Posted December 31, 2014 Share NoobDas reg Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/9/#findComment-2509411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoLefty!! Posted December 31, 2014 Share True Lefty: But he got verbal signage, and then lost his marbles. How is any non-verbal static sign going to influence his mentality? As it is, the vast majority of riders actually dont ride up. Its exactly this type of cretin that will cause an accident, cos you know, they are never wrong yadah yadah.. When we step back from ourselves we realise that we are always right. No matter who we are. Its just human nature. Unless faced with an official in a uniform waiving a finger in our direction, then its different. By nature South Africans don self police nor do we like being policed by our neighbours. We're a pretty immature society no matter how high we think our moral standards rise. I'm all for a informing others where they are wrong and where those wrongs have a detrimental effect on the rest of the community. But actually getting those people to behave differently requires more than a verbal altercation. All that achieves is a pissed off individual who now gives less of a **** about "those DownHillers Rules". Some people need to be coached and my stategy with these folks is to befriend them and show them how it should be done. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/9/#findComment-2509412 Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Deon) Posted January 1, 2015 Share Guess I should chime in here Myles and accept some responsibility for the lack of backup on the trail. Trouble is when I got back to where the baboon emptied sign poles were planted to replace the broken signs, they too were gone! These signs are what you can expect to see replaced on DH2 soon. With them in the ground it will be a lot easier to make your point and it also has the full support of Parks. Hopefully the missing structures will show up soon in a bush where some of the previous poles have been found. I often wonder what poses a bigger challenge, negotiating with Parks for more trails, or the riders to abide by some of the basic rules? - For some time it's not been Parks. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/9/#findComment-2509449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Potgieter Posted January 1, 2015 Share Whats a mountain? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/9/#findComment-2509452 Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted January 1, 2015 Share Whats a mountain?That's deeeeeep, Wayne'What an existential question....Uhm, or is it like a Jozi kinda question, I guess Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/9/#findComment-2509454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted January 1, 2015 Share Those are nice-looking fietse heyHere's a random one from the web; it's not cpt mayhem's new friend (hehehehe) Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/9/#findComment-2509456 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko35s Posted January 1, 2015 Share When we step back from ourselves we realise that we are always right. No matter who we are. Its just human nature. Unless faced with an official in a uniform waiving a finger in our direction, then its different. By nature South Africans don self police nor do we like being policed by our neighbours. We're a pretty immature society no matter how high we think our moral standards rise. I'm all for a informing others where they are wrong and where those wrongs have a detrimental effect on the rest of the community. But actually getting those people to behave differently requires more than a verbal altercation. All that achieves is a pissed off individual who now gives less of a **** about "those DownHillers Rules". Some people need to be coached and my stategy with these folks is to befriend them and show them how it should be done.That does kind of fit in with his "I live in South Africa because I don't have to abide by the rules comment". Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/9/#findComment-2509457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted January 1, 2015 Share K22 DH2-ENTRY.jpeg K22 DH2-EXIT.jpeg Guess I should chime in here Myles and accept some responsibility for the lack of backup on the trail. Trouble is when I got back to where the baboon emptied sign poles were planted to replace the broken signs, they too were gone! These signs are what you can expect to see replaced on DH2 soon. With them in the ground it will be a lot easier to make your point and it also has the full support of Parks. Hopefully the missing structures will show up soon in a bush where some of the previous poles have been found. I often wonder what poses a bigger challenge, negotiating with Parks for more trails, or the riders to abide by some of the basic rules? - For some time it's not been Parks.Is that the current signage on the trail in question?Sorry on careful reading I see that is future signage.What signage is there at present.The last time I rode there it was all pretty sketchy especially coming down from Ou Wa Pad and Silvermine Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/9/#findComment-2509463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted January 1, 2015 Share K22 DH2-ENTRY.jpeg K22 DH2-EXIT.jpeg I'm from Jozi, where we only have grassy knolls and no mountains, so don't flame me for this question. Why does the first sign post, indicating a DH trail, illustrate a guy riding up a trail? Or does it indicate that you should watch out for chops riding up the trail? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/9/#findComment-2509468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko35s Posted January 1, 2015 Share I'm from Jozi, where we only have grassy knolls and no mountains, so don't flame me for this question. Why does the first sign post, indicating a DH trail, illustrate a guy riding up a trail? Or does it indicate that you should watch out for chops riding up the trail?It indicates mountain bike only - no hiking, horse riding etc. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/9/#findComment-2509471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko35s Posted January 1, 2015 Share Is that the current signage on the trail in question?Sorry on careful reading I see that is future signage.What signage is there at present.The last time I rode there it was all pretty sketchy especially coming down from Ou Wa Pad and SilvermineThey were there and then the baboons intervened, ripped them out of the ground and then ate/broke/used them for an impromptu game of cricket. Or something. Anyway that is pretty much besides the point - the guy knew he wasn't supposed to ride up there but chose to do so anyway. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/9/#findComment-2509472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted January 1, 2015 Share They were there and then the baboons intervened, ripped them out of the ground and then ate/broke/used them for an impromptu game of cricket. Or something.Anyway that is pretty much besides the point - the guy knew he wasn't supposed to ride up there but chose to do so anyway.Is it? How did he know he wasn't supposed to ride up there? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/9/#findComment-2509488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko35s Posted January 1, 2015 Share Is it? How did he know he wasn't supposed to ride up there?Because he said so.He admitted he had had clashes before about the same thing and at the same time he said he didn't give a toss.Besides that in the four years he has been riding at Tokai he would have noticed the signage at least once before the baboons did their thing. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/9/#findComment-2509490 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrancoisL Posted January 1, 2015 Share When we step back from ourselves we realise that we are always right. No matter who we are. Its just human nature. Unless faced with an official in a uniform waiving a finger in our direction, then its different. By nature South Africans don self police nor do we like being policed by our neighbours. We're a pretty immature society no matter how high we think our moral standards rise. I'm all for a informing others where they are wrong and where those wrongs have a detrimental effect on the rest of the community. But actually getting those people to behave differently requires more than a verbal altercation. All that achieves is a pissed off individual who now gives less of a **** about "those DownHillers Rules". Some people need to be coached and my stategy with these folks is to befriend them and show them how it should be done. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/9/#findComment-2509491 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marko35s Posted January 1, 2015 Share When we step back from ourselves we realise that we are always right. No matter who we are. Its just human nature. Unless faced with an official in a uniform waiving a finger in our direction, then its different. By nature South Africans don self police nor do we like being policed by our neighbours. We're a pretty immature society no matter how high we think our moral standards rise. I'm all for a informing others where they are wrong and where those wrongs have a detrimental effect on the rest of the community. But actually getting those people to behave differently requires more than a verbal altercation. All that achieves is a pissed off individual who now gives less of a **** about "those DownHillers Rules". Some people need to be coached and my stategy with these folks is to befriend them and show them how it should be done. And your point is? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/9/#findComment-2509493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted January 1, 2015 Share Because he said so.He admitted he had had clashes before about the same thing and at the same time he said he didn't give a toss.Besides that in the four years he has been riding at Tokai he would have noticed the signage at least once before the baboons did their thing.Tell you what....If I decide to ride up from Fish Hoek and explore and there is a trail which is unmarked with no signage or warning signs I'll prob decide to ride up it and when two self appointed custodians come and lecture me about it and call me a c*nt I'll tell them to piss off Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/146221-to-the-57-year-old-bianchi-methanol-rider/page/9/#findComment-2509497 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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