marko35s Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 The interwebs is for free and ll, but if all humbleness and with great respect for both of your opinions can you not either discuss this over there, over a beer or let it be.Yep this is getting very silly now.
MoreTrails Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Sounds good eve if it is a spesh :-) there is a theory that we all ride MTBS that are too small for us. The Mojo suspension bloke in the UK has a custom Nicolai with radical geo. Nicolai offer bikes with varying wheel sizes eg sixers with 650 front wheels etc... From what i have read, sometimes between the lines, many of the new long slack enduro bikes like the 2015 Reign are stable and fast and good on steeps stuff but fall a little short where it comes to popping off stuff and jumps where a shorter bike bike my older Reign is probably more fun. I am happy with my set up in most cases but a taller slacker front end would make the ultra steep stuff like the very top of DH 1 at Tokai a bit easier. Thats only 1% or less of my riding distance wise but it can also be where you lose many seconds...Headshot: bear in mind that Chris (i think its Chris....) from Mojo is like the Mondraker....at the far end of the spectrum, of what a bike should be like. He has very strong views on the subject, and on suspension and what it should do, something that people / the industry in general don't always agree with....(or that actually work at times). But by all means, slack geo, long wheel base and stability on the modern mountain bike are great things and should be employed across the board on all bikes depending on the application. Same can be said for stem length.... For instance a slightly slacker headtube geo for a marathon bike may go a long way to saving a tired rider towards the end of a ride when he needs forgiveness, or similar forgiveness when he needs all out DH speed.Similarly it is critical to then get that seat tube geo right so the bike is responsive and doesn't suck the life blood out of his legs on long climbs and tragic dirt roads through the middle of Mordor! Anyway, there is a point where the numbers and geo and all that jazz start to stuff things up a bit and the bikes become difficult to maneuver. I recon the sign of a good company is being able to keep up with suitable "trends" and deliver the best products.And give you that stability you are after while delivering a certain playfulness....that is always key, because ideally we are actually doing this for fun!
Hairy Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Headshot: bear in mind that Chris (i think its Chris....) from Mojo is like the Mondraker....at the far end of the spectrum, of what a bike should be like. He has very strong views on the subject, and on suspension and what it should do, something that people / the industry in general don't always agree with....(or that actually work at times). But by all means, slack geo, long wheel base and stability on the modern mountain bike are great things and should be employed across the board on all bikes depending on the application. Same can be said for stem length.... For instance a slightly slacker headtube geo for a marathon bike may go a long way to saving a tired rider towards the end of a ride when he needs forgiveness, or similar forgiveness when he needs all out DH speed.Similarly it is critical to then get that seat tube geo right so the bike is responsive and doesn't suck the life blood out of his legs on long climbs and tragic dirt roads through the middle of Mordor! Anyway, there is a point where the numbers and geo and all that jazz start to stuff things up a bit and the bikes become difficult to maneuver. I recon the sign of a good company is being able to keep up with suitable "trends" and deliver the best products.And give you that stability you are after while delivering a certain playfulness....that is always key, because ideally we are actually doing this for fun!
Headshot Posted February 11, 2015 Author Posted February 11, 2015 This is another intersting bike. Some of the reviewer/engineers comments about the suspension seem dubious... Bike appeals to me though - a real head turner. http://www.pinkbike.com/news/pole-rinne-yla-review-2015.html
Piston ZA Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 For those not too knowledgeable about bike geometry as myself, this from vitalmtb.com helped a bit. Well explained. http://www.vitalmtb.com/features/Modern-Mountain-Bike-Geometry-Defined-Transition-Explains-Effective-Top-Tube-Versus-Reach,841 I see they also advocate the short stem route (<60mm) on everything but purely XC
Iwan Kemp Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 I recon the sign of a good company is being able to keep up with suitable "trends" and deliver the best products.And give you that stability you are after while delivering a certain playfulness....that is always key, because ideally we are actually doing this for fun! So what you're saying is we should all ride Ibis HD's?
popcorn_skollie Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 This is another intersting bike. Some of the reviewer/engineers comments about the suspension seem dubious... Bike appeals to me though - a real head turner. http://www.pinkbike.com/news/pole-rinne-yla-review-2015.html It really is. All those meticulous welds and CNC'ed bits are often seen as eye sores. Overlooked and/or forgiven on a prototype model. To me they just seem pretty.http://ep1.pinkbike.org/p5pb11788444/p5pb11788444.jpg
MoreTrails Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 So what you're saying is we should all ride Ibis HD's?Not sure I feel comfortable supporting a bike company who call their bike a Hadadar
Iwan Kemp Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Not sure I feel comfortable supporting a bike company who call their bike a Hadadar In their defense they also have a Tranny in their line-up. Does that help?
Hairy Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 In their defense they also have a Tranny in their line-up. Does that help?does that answer the need for a "do it all" and "multi-use" bike?
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 does that answer the need for a "do it all" and "multi-use" bike?You must mean dual purpose
popcorn_skollie Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 i had this great pun but just forgot it
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 i had this great pun but just forgot itCapricorn is getting his tranny in a week or 2. I'm sure he's gonna ride it hard and fast...
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