slickjay007 Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Hi, I have a Trek Mamba 29er with Bontrager 29-2, 29x2.2" front & rear tyres and wanted to know if these will be compatible to go tubeless? Also what are the pros and cons of going tubeless? And also where would the best cycle shop to do this job? I'm a JHB boy!
s14phoenix Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Google is your friend dude... So many articlesTubeless is the way to go I think.would recommend Gorilla tape if your rims are not tubeless setup already. I am not sure those tyres are tubeless at all... Get your local bike shop to check the rims if you cannot find the information you need.Also make sure you get tires that are tubeless Easy or tubeless ready or UST tubelessAlso check for a bit of protection or snakeskin or similar on the tyres you want to convert.
Pusher Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 You can get plastic rim inserts that are made for Bontrager rims. They just clip in and very easy to fit. I got mine from Solomons in Woodmead. Those aren't tubeless ready tyres but you can make them tubeless. Pros and cons? As s14 says..Google..
DominionZA Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Hi, I have a Trek Mamba 29er with Bontrager 29-2, 29x2.2" front & rear tyres and wanted to know if these will be compatible to go tubeless? Also what are the pros and cons of going tubeless? And also where would the best cycle shop to do this job? I'm a JHB boy! Cajees in Bedfordview told me R1800 to convert my 29er. Johnsons in Edenvale and Cycleworks in Boksberg said around R1,500. Both prices included new tyres. This month is the month I go tubeless. I have tyre liners and tubes with slime, and still been halted in my tracks with 3 punctures in the last month. Over it now.
mtbride Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Pros: Faster fixing of punctures (important in races if you care), no removing of tyre etc.Can run lower pressures (thus more grip)Less rotational weight where it matters the most. Cons: You need to replace sealant every few months but I've heard some other sealants last longer. I had to replace after 4 months, stans sealant became 1 big ball of sealant rolling around inside tyre.You can struggle to seat some tyres on some rims initially, but there are ways around this. The tyres need to be tubeless compatible or whatever, otherwise they leak everywhere and it takes some time to get them to seal on the sidewalls.Any rims can be ghetto converted to tubeless by using gorilla tape and a youtube video or 2 ... There also Stans tubeless kits you can buy and do it yourself!
Rocket-Boy Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 The running lower pressure thing only seems to count if you are a lightweight rider.Mine burp at anything less than 1.8bar and I weigh 88kg's that is with all of the different tyres I have tried.
mtbride Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 The running lower pressure thing only seems to count if you are a lightweight rider.Mine burp at anything less than 1.8bar and I weigh 88kg's that is with all of the different tyres I have tried. I think it's more a feature of how good the tyre beads sits on the rim bead or whatever. On my Wide Lightning rims, when deflated totally, I cannot remove the tyre from the bead easily, it requires force to break the bead connection on the rim. The Wide Lightnings also have an advantage regarding burping because of it's width, creating a more stable platform for the sidewall of the tyre. I'm lightweight yes, and run 1.4 and 1.6 bar.
Davey_Jones Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Cajees in Bedfordview told me R1800 to convert my 29er. Johnsons in Edenvale and Cycleworks in Boksberg said around R1,500. Both prices included new tyres. This month is the month I go tubeless. I have tyre liners and tubes with slime, and still been halted in my tracks with 3 punctures in the last month. Over it now.What tyres will you land up with after that though? I spent around R1300 did the conversion myself and am on Maxxis Ardent/Crossmark. Tyres+Tape+Stans
slickjay007 Posted May 7, 2015 Author Posted May 7, 2015 Thanks for the input... Will make a decision shortly.
BenReaper Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Tubeless is definitly the way to go.Ran tubeless on my Anthem 26" for 8 months with no flats.[emoji106] Sold the Anthem and built up a XTC 29" with tubes,second time out on new bike only got about 19km from home,both wheels flat from thorns.[emoji107] Did the tubeless coversion the next morning and went to ride the same route as previous day,60km with no problems.[emoji106] Tubeless FTW!!![emoji2]
seanrcb Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 Tubeless wins hands down best upgrade ever - run stans on crossmark LUST since novemeber no flats as yet only topped up once since then due for top up soon.As for going to LBS its really simple buy the gear and do it yourself that way if you ever have a problem you can sort it yourself
DominionZA Posted May 7, 2015 Posted May 7, 2015 What tyres will you land up with after that though? I spent around R1300 did the conversion myself and am on Maxxis Ardent/Crossmark. Tyres+Tape+StansNot sure to be honest. Never got fine details. Just asked for a ballpark so I knew how to budget. Was at Cyclelab on Sat and saw they had quite a few DIY tubeless options. Too confusing though and ended up not getting anything. Wouldn't mind doing it myself if there was a clear how to and what to get.
mtbride Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Not sure to be honest. Never got fine details. Just asked for a ballpark so I knew how to budget. Was at Cyclelab on Sat and saw they had quite a few DIY tubeless options. Too confusing though and ended up not getting anything. Wouldn't mind doing it myself if there was a clear how to and what to get. The basics (if your rims are not tubeless with tape inside already) that you need either stans yellow tape or gorilla tape, to seal off the spoke holes on the inside of the rim. Secondly you need tubeless valves with a core that can be removed and the rubber o-ring that seals the valve hole. And then you need proper tubeless tyres, like Schwalbe's snakeskin versions. And some sealant like Stans. I did the conversion myself, but it was a mission to get the tyres seated, had to install a tube 1st, inflate it, then de-bead one side of the tyre, remove the tube and use soapy water to get it to seat again. A compressor will make it all easier.
Broker Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 What Kraggie said above is 100%. Much better to do it yourself and more cost effective. You only need 3 basic things - Tubeless valve, Rim tape (Stanss or Gorilla) and Stans sealant.
scotty Posted May 8, 2015 Posted May 8, 2015 Cajees in Bedfordview told me R1800 to convert my 29er. Johnsons in Edenvale and Cycleworks in Boksberg said around R1,500. Both prices included new tyres. This month is the month I go tubeless. I have tyre liners and tubes with slime, and still been halted in my tracks with 3 punctures in the last month. Over it now.Take this, tubeless tyres are around R500 each, plus sealant, plus valves and maybe tape required, even do it yourself you looking at close to R1500.
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