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Winstonian1984

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Just interested to know if anyone has used tubeless tubular road tyres before.

 

I decided to search for this as we know tubbies can be quite pricey if you have bad luck with puncture...e.g myself having 2 within a kilometer of each other.

 

Google lead me to this page:

 

http://clementcycling.com/strada-lgg-road

 

The tubular is claimed to have a tubeless construction. 

 

So have any hubbers used tubular tubeless road tyres before? if not, will you try?

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I don't quite understand. I have never heard of tubeless tubulars.

 

You do get tubeless tyres, but they have nothing to do with tubulars. They are used on a tubeless specific rim which is very similar to a clincher. Is this what you are referring to?

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Tubeless tires offer great feel and offer good rolling resistance because you can run lower pressure without pinch flat risk, small holes get sealed with sealant just like MTB tires... When they work they work like a dream. you can convert most wheels to be tubeless but tires need to be specifically developed as tubeless because of the bead.

 

The downside is the availability of tubeless road tires is sparse and then they're expensive and also limited to pretty crappy grip and rubber on the Hutchinsons that I found chapped and cracked up like a dry riverbed after only a few months. Once they got cut they split like moses parting the ocean and they were throwaway or then converted to heavy tires with tubes just so you can use the rubber. The bead is so tight that when you do need to put in a tube on the road the likelihood of you pinching the tube on the way in is almost certain. Do more digging and you'll find almost all tubeless road tires are n fact made by hutchinson, some make their own tread surface.

 

25c tires have proven to be the answer for me, the Vredestein Fortezza Senso is amazingly good, its race light yet resistant to punctures, don't split open and have grip like snot on a blanket. Plus you can buy them for the same price as a rather average tubeless tire. They feel the same and offer the same rolling resistance advantages of tubeless, yet the ease of use of a normal tube.

 

i keep the Vredestein in Stock almost exclusively, don't even keep 23c anymore and have given up the hunt for the best tubeless road tire.

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..............The tubular is claimed to have a tubeless construction...........

 I would assume that you can then plug a puncture in your tubbie like you would plug a tubeless mountain bike tyre. Even if you run it without sealant in, the fact that you can repair it roadside, is a great idea. I doubt if sealant will plug it fast enough at the pressures run in a tubbie though. I would imagine it deflating too much too quickly before the sealant can work properly. And no, I haven't used anything like this, but if it works, then I can see the advantage.

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I don't quite understand. I have never heard of tubeless tubulars.

 

You do get tubeless tyres, but they have nothing to do with tubulars. They are used on a tubeless specific rim which is very similar to a clincher. Is this what you are referring to?

I mailed the guys from clement tyres and they say that their road tubby has no inner tube, hence the tubeless tubular. They said it can be repaired like a normal tubeless tyre.

 

Check the link in the first post.

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The pressure of a tubby forces the plug out... It works for a very short distance at very low pressure.

 

Sealant actually works... depending on the size of the hole.

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