Cyclists with a "Running" Problem

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We were glued to the TV for the full 2 hours! It was the absolute best.

 

What a legend - not just the saying, but a REAL legend

The sad thing is that he will never be known in the same way that usain bolt or Carl Lewis etc are known just because the marathon doesn't have the glory of the track and field athletes... But in reality he is up there with the greatest athletes of all time

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22km split is only 900m from the 21.1 split to 22km Mark

 

So in essence still running 2.55 pace

Is it though? Looks like they presented those splits in two columns of 21.1 each

[Ferret69]

Is it though? Looks like they presented those splits in two columns of 21.1 each

 

Definitely is, if you add the 19sec split from 21 to 21.1, and then the 2.36 you get the 2.55ish... see overall time through 21km (1:00.46) and 22km (1:03.40) you get 2.54...

 

I watched from start to finish, no way he blew a 2.36km anywhere... I think the 2.43 first km was the quickest..

[Chris_]

The sad thing is that he will never be known in the same way that usain bolt or Carl Lewis etc are known just because the marathon doesn't have the glory of the track and field athletes... But in reality he is up there with the greatest athletes of all time

 

I think the breaking 2 doc did a great job - as Nike does, to bring awareness to this sub culture.

 

But you're right, he is truly superhuman, its a pity more people aren't celebrating it.

[Mudsimus]

The sad thing is that he will never be known in the same way... Carl Lewis

As a doper? Hopefully not.

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As a doper? Hopefully not.

I meant how he was known then . He was a hero for me at the time... What has transpired is sad

[Ronniek]

The sad thing is that he will never be known in the same way that usain bolt or Carl Lewis etc are known just because the marathon doesn't have the glory of the track and field athletes... But in reality he is up there with the greatest athletes of all time

Anyone else notice the lack of fanfare on the news this morning? Not even a mention on the sports news.

[shah]

I see km 22 is a 2:36 split! It that when he dropped the last pacer?

km22 was actually 900m being the first K after the halfway point

[SwissVan]

Anyone else notice the lack of fanfare on the news this morning? Not even a mention on the sports news.

It made our local news paper this morning ????

[Odinson]

That run is not human. Sprinting at full tilt for 42km. Jeez. 

 

Question to those in the know. How is he paced? Some folks mentioned other runners. How does that work? 

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That run is not human. Sprinting at full tilt for 42km. Jeez.

 

Question to those in the know. How is he paced? Some folks mentioned other runners. How does that work?

He had 4 I think. They would have set splits that they aimed for. Those guys would keep the pace to make sure they reach the splits at the set time. They will not be quite at elite level but will be part of the training team.... Pretty much like a domestique

[SwissVan]

He had 4 I think. They would have set splits that they aimed for. Those guys would keep the pace to make sure they reach the splits at the set time. They will not be quite at elite level but will be part of the training team.... Pretty much like a domestique

And at the speed they run, drafting is a reality

20.8 km/h

Edited September 17, 2018 by SwissVan

[Chris_]

That run is not human. Sprinting at full tilt for 42km. Jeez. 

 

Question to those in the know. How is he paced? Some folks mentioned other runners. How does that work? 

 

I don't know if the race organizes pacers or if each athlete does it (judging by the on-road coaching we saw I think its the race). but they're just there to keep the main guys on time targets. The 3 or 4 main pros each had 3 pacers.

 

Kipchoge said he wanted a 61 min 21km split. So they did the sums and the pacers' job is to maintain that exact speed so he can achieve it. As soon as they cannot keep the required pace, they drop off and walk home.

 

Its mostly to keep pace, but there is obviously also the benefit of drafting behind pacers too. 

 

Mentally I reckon its easier to just follow someones shadow rather than always be working out your own speed, splits an times for the entire race.

[Odinson]

I don't know if the race organizes pacers or if each athlete does it (judging by the on-road coaching we saw I think its the race). but they're just there to keep the main guys on time targets. The 3 or 4 main pros each had 3 pacers.

 

Kipchoge said he wanted a 61 min 21km split. So they did the sums and the pacers' job is to maintain that exact speed so he can achieve it. As soon as they cannot keep the required pace, they drop off and walk home.

 

Its mostly to keep pace, but there is obviously also the benefit of drafting behind pacers too.

 

Mentally I reckon its easier to just follow someones shadow rather than always be working out your own speed, splits an times for the entire race.

Makes sense, but how is he paces at the back end of the race? Who can keep up with him at that pace?

[Chris_]

Makes sense, but how is he paces at the back end of the race? Who can keep up with him at that pace?

 

They only last 20, 25 km's, 30 at best. After that, you're on your own.

 

That was the real beauty of Sundays race. Kipchoges first 2 pacers dropped very very early, 10km's I think. The third guy lasted just about half way. 

 

He did SO much of that run on his own.

 

EDIT: the first 2 dropped at 15km's, the third at 25

Edited September 17, 2018 by CBlake

[Chris_]

Hows prep going for the Cape Town marathon runners here? I know its a biggie.