Kalahari Vegmot Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 How else would you preload the the headset, exactly?
GrahamS2 Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 56798-largest_02_5mm_spacer.jpgAnd what if your bike fit requires that spacer to be under the stem?
droo Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 And what if your bike fit requires that spacer to be under the stem? If the top of the steerer is above the top stem bolt, then you're good. Conventional wisdom says 2 - 3mm below the top of the stem is fine. If not, you've cut your steerer too short. Which is expensive.
Simon Kolin Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 Refer to post #22What exactly am I supposed to reference in post #22? I replied to your comment in post #26 "The stem should't ever stick out above the steerer tube." which was incomplete and inaccurate advice.
GrahamS2 Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 If the top of the steerer is above the top stem bolt, then you're good. Conventional wisdom says 2 - 3mm below the top of the stem is fine. If not, you've cut your steerer too short. Which is expensive.Yeah that's what I'm getting at. I'm wondering why the insistence that there must be a spacer above the stem. It's illogical.
Kalahari Vegmot Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 What exactly am I supposed to reference in post #22? I replied to your comment in post #26 "The stem should't ever stick out above the steerer tube." which was incomplete and inaccurate advice.It shouldn't. It's bad practice IMO.
Simon Kolin Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 It shouldn't. It's bad practice IMO.Fair enough. It's your option, but factually incorrect. It is very acceptable to have a steerer tube pass above the top of the stem, with the provision that there is enough length of the steerer to add x spacers AND then allow a 2-3mm gap for the top-cap to sit into.
GrahamS2 Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 It shouldn't. It's bad practice IMO.Based on what?
Sepia Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 I am now totally and utterly confused as to the actual problem.
Simon Kolin Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 Yeah that's what I'm getting at. I'm wondering why the insistence that there must be a spacer above the stem. It's illogical.It could be suggested that this method would allow the stem clamp to tighten around a cylinder (steerer tube) of consistent diameter. This may prevent damage to carbon steerer tubes. e.g. delaminating of fibres if the top stem bolt is allowed to be too tight
GrahamS2 Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 It could be suggested that this method would allow the stem clamp to tighten around a cylinder (steerer tube) of consistent diameter. This may prevent damage to carbon steerer tubes. e.g. delaminating of fibres if the top stem bolt is allowed to be too tightCarbon steerers are another story, especially if they are cut badly. But the clamping force required to crush a tube with 2-3mm wall thickness is considerable. Even more so for alu.
Mojoman Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 56798-largest_02_5mm_spacer.jpgIs there not a stepped spacer of sorts available for something like this? So it would sit on top of the spacer and the stepped section would press down on the steerer tube?
AlanD Posted December 8, 2017 Author Posted December 8, 2017 Are you using the nukeproof cup? If it's still an fsa/giant cup the bearing and the rest of the top cap assembly might not sit flush like with the nukeproof cup.Yes, replaced the whole headset so both are nukeproof.
AlanD Posted December 8, 2017 Author Posted December 8, 2017 Did you clean your new fork before installing the stem?The local LBS installed the headset and fork so cant say if they cleaned it.
Kalahari Vegmot Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 Is there not a stepped spacer of sorts available for something like this? So it would sit on top of the spacer and the stepped section would press down on the steerer tube?What would be the purpose of such a stepped spacer?
Mojoman Posted December 8, 2017 Posted December 8, 2017 What would be the purpose of such a stepped spacer?My bad, I was thinking of something else and didn't look carefully...
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