AngusC Posted October 9, 2015 Share Recently bought a Silverback Slade 2 27.5 and im loving it! One thing that bothers me is a grinding noise that comes from the rear end of the bike. So I put it on my service rack and took a closer look, to find out that there is a small plate on the rear Derrailleu which the chain rubs harshly on when I turn the cranks. Not sure if the chain is too big for the Derrailleur or if it is not set correctly Anyone have a 2014 Silverback Slade 2 and knows anything about this?ThanksAngaton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaper Posted October 9, 2015 Share Sounds like chain was installed wrong and should run the other side of that spacer plate. Break the chain and reroute It happens more often than you think with regard to feeding the chain through the jockey wheels Is the same for both mtb and road http://www.madegood.org/bikes/repair/thread-a-chain-onto-a-rear-derailleur/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edge_Design Posted October 9, 2015 Share If the shop assembled it then ask them for a new derailleur and chain as it's probably scratched your shiny new derailleur! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarHugger Posted October 9, 2015 Share Sounds like chain was installed wrong and should run the other side of that spacer plate. Break the chain and reroute It happens more often than you think with regard to feeding the chain through the jockey wheels Is the same for both mtb and road http://www.madegood.org/bikes/repair/thread-a-chain-onto-a-rear-derailleur/This........klein foutjie, groot knaterflater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NicNacDH Posted October 9, 2015 Share Sounds like chain was installed wrong and should run the other side of that spacer plate. Break the chain and reroute 100% Picture would help, to be 110% sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eldron Posted October 9, 2015 Share Agreed on the "wrong side of the L bend" theory. I love how its a design fault - like a trillion dollars of r&d and about a sillybillion rd's sold would allow that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrightJnr Posted October 9, 2015 Share The design fault is that it allows you to install it wrong. A good design would not allow the uneducated mechanic the chance to get it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Marshall Posted October 9, 2015 Share It is not a fault that persists. Pretty soon the plate disappears and the noise goes with it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GLuvsMtb Posted October 9, 2015 Share The design fault is that it allows you to install it wrong. A good design would not allow the uneducated mechanic the chance to get it wrong.There is inadequate design and then there is user error. I think this falls to the latter, much like this cliphttp://youtu.be/Xiwh5snq254 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbradd Posted October 9, 2015 Share The design fault is that it allows you to install it wrong. A good design would not allow the uneducated mechanic the chance to get it wrong.As an engineer this attitude is one of my pet peeves. "Having" to design for someone who is too lazy to read the manual, not qualified to work on the part, or too stupid to work it out. What you're essentially asking for in this exact instance is for the Shimano engineer to make a compromise on the 50 hours of functionality (1000km on a chain at 20km/h) such that an uneducated/lazy idiot can do the 2 second job of threading the chain properly. Remember that after he put your chain on he should have run through the gears to check the shifting as well, so if he did get it wrong he could have taken another 30 seconds to refit the chain. Remember also that XT is a performance part. You pay a premium for that. And now you want to compromise that additional performance for the sake of the untrained mechanic's ego? "Do it properly and it will work well", not "do it and it will work". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket-Boy Posted October 9, 2015 Share As an engineer this attitude is one of my pet peeves. "Having" to design for someone who is too lazy to read the manual, not qualified to work on the part, or too stupid to work it out. What you're essentially asking for in this exact instance is for the Shimano engineer to make a compromise on the 50 hours of functionality (1000km on a chain at 20km/h) such that an uneducated/lazy idiot can do the 2 second job of threading the chain properly. Remember that after he put your chain on he should have run through the gears to check the shifting as well, so if he did get it wrong he could have taken another 30 seconds to refit the chain. Remember also that XT is a performance part. You pay a premium for that. And now you want to compromise that additional performance for the sake of the untrained mechanic's ego? "Do it properly and it will work well", not "do it and it will work".Dont worry its a software engineers pet peeve too, only difference is we have to cater for the unwashed cretins who end up using the software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pure Savage Posted October 9, 2015 Share The design fault is that it allows you to install it wrong. A good design would not allow the uneducated mechanic the chance to get it wrong. No, designers should not have to compensate for stupid people. Next you will be telling me a quick release is faulty if it can get caught in your disc brake. These stupid people are the reason we have warnings on fan belts. "MAKE SURE TO SHUT MOTOR OFF BEFORE CHANGING FAN BELT" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrightJnr Posted October 9, 2015 Share Not a bad cast for a Friday....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoirBiker Posted October 10, 2015 Share As an engineer this attitude is one of my pet peeves. "Having" to design for someone who is too lazy to read the manual, not qualified to work on the part, or too stupid to work it out. What you're essentially asking for in this exact instance is for the Shimano engineer to make a compromise on the 50 hours of functionality (1000km on a chain at 20km/h) such that an uneducated/lazy idiot can do the 2 second job of threading the chain properly. Remember that after he put your chain on he should have run through the gears to check the shifting as well, so if he did get it wrong he could have taken another 30 seconds to refit the chain. Remember also that XT is a performance part. You pay a premium for that. And now you want to compromise that additional performance for the sake of the untrained mechanic's ego? "Do it properly and it will work well", not "do it and it will work".Sorry to go a bit off topic, madbradd which engineering discipline are you qualified for? I honestly never thought that there would be engineers on the bike hub. My materials science lecturer says he's done cycling up until last year which he just doesn't look like a person who cycled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IH8MUD Posted October 10, 2015 Share My rear derailleur gets the this design fault every now and then when I do a lame-ass chain fitting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilipV Posted October 10, 2015 Share No, designers should not have to compensate for stupid people. Next you will be telling me a quick release is faulty if it can get caught in your disc brake. These stupid people are the reason we have warnings on fan belts. "MAKE SURE TO SHUT MOTOR OFF BEFORE CHANGING FAN BELT"And the fact that Americans sue someone willy nilly to compensate for their own stupidity attests to this as well. The Caution, Contents Hot stickers on hot chocolate and coffee is a case in point. Stupid people are everywhere. And sadly, they reproduce... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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