Tokai murder

[Boerklong]

Why is safety such a concern for this guy? He did not care about a little girl's safety. You are a big and strong man, hopefully you get a chance to be raped.

[sias]

These fckrs have more rights than a law abiding citizen!

[Headshot]

I see this sentiment a lot, but why is this always the goto-solution when clearly it's not the intent of discussion around social and political failings to address inept policing? I really don't understand what this action will accomplish, other than prove itself ineffective.

 

I would rather suggest that when a crime does occur, there be pressure to ensure due process is followed. Case in point, the recent murder of the young woman in Khyalitsha. Her violated corpse was found upright in a toilet over a week ago. Not one detective came digging around in that entire week, except yesterday once the police failings came to light. The station commander was horrible at explaining why detectives haven't begun to investigate that young woman's murder.

 

There's no real pragmatic point to listing every single daily criminal act. The public will become desensitized, and given the rate of major crime in this country, i wouldn't blame anyone for being desensitized. It's practically a defense mechanism against mental instability!

 

But,

if we are to say everylifematters, then we should be ready and willing to act in support of others as we do for ourselves, irrespective of race and social status.

 

Somehow, the cops being kept honest from day-0  in the case of the Tokai murder, yet not 20km away in Khayelitsha, it's a completely different story. The social context is hard to ignore. However, the real reasons behind this disgusting disparity needs to be properly understood,and addressed.

 

They won't be able to solve all crimes, but the cops must take necessary steps to ensure they stand the best chance of solving it. This is where, IMHO, the pressure needs to be focused, and the press plays a huge role in this regard, as they are in the best position to bring to light such policing inefficiencies.

 

The public, especially those directly affected, should also be quick to lodge complaints about lack of service. But for that to be worthwhile, we the public at least need to know what level of service we can expect. Surely, taking more than a week to start investigating a murder an area as populated as a township is completely unacceptable, if not criminally negligent?

Agree - I have to wonder what the local community involvement is in Kayelitsha. Do they co-operate with SAPS?. Have any witnesses come forward? I suspect there is mistrust of SAPS even after the commission of inquiry and possibly fear of retribution. Somebody ,must know who did it or know something that would assist the police. 

[sias]

Agree - I have to wonder what the local community involvement is in Kayelitsha. Do they co-operate with SAPS?. Have any witnesses come forward? I suspect there is mistrust of SAPS even after the commission of inquiry and possibly fear of retribution. Somebody ,must know who did it or know something that would assist the police. 

 Just say a white man killed her. Easy. The whole world will be there to solve the crime and that fat cow from the police can carry on with her political kakpratery. Let's leave it there for now...

[Gen]

The father of the one who wants to go to Pollsmoor is a warder there.

You have got to be kidding me

[Boerklong]

You have got to be kidding me

Anything is possible.

[sias]

You have got to be kidding me

 99% of the a-holes in guvamunt and guvamunt positions are criminals in any case. his daddy has a nice cell with a sea view already set aside for his precious misunderstood munchkin. Fckng savage...

[Headshot]

You have got to be kidding me

So his "poverty made me do it defence" is not going to go too far.

 

Must admit on my long in the past  visits to Pollsmoor as a defence attorney I had trouble telling who was a guard and who was an inmate - their general demenour was very similar...

[Boerklong]

99% of the a-holes in guvamunt and guvamunt positions are criminals in any case. his daddy has a nice cell with a sea view already set aside for his precious misunderstood munchkin. Fckng savage...

Makes my blood boil.

One even laughed in court.

[sias]

Makes my blood boil.

One even laughed in court.

Will they give him to me if I post his bail?

[Tumbleweed]

Seems Plato is scrambling to put a better face on policing in the province...this is a non-statement.     

 

Statement by Dan Plato, Western Cape Minister of Community Safety

 

Corrupt cops – charges against three officers welcomed

 

Date: 11 March 2016

Release: Immediate

 

I welcome the continued action the South African Police Service (SAPS) is taking in the Western Cape against police officers that think they are above the law.

 

The most recent incident sees three police officials nabbed for various charges including defeating the ends of justice and corruption.

 

The SAPS have my full support as there is no place in the Western Cape for corruption.

 

I believe there is nothing as damaging for the SAPS as the breakdown in the relationship between them, as custodians of the rule of law, and communities. Police officers cannot become part of the crime they are supposed to prevent and combat.

 

In order to rebuild the lost trust between the SAPS and communities, it is important to shine a light on every case of cops becoming criminals. An officer in service who even considers committing a crime has to know: You will be caught and you will have to face the full might of the law.

 

Western Cape Provincial Commissioner, Lieutenant General Khombinkosi Jula has the unwavering support of the Provincial Government to ensure we root out the rot within the service.

 

The war on gangs, drugs and illegal guns can never be won if police officers are in cahoots with the criminals. Dirty cops are not the norm and tarnish the hard work done by the SAPS in the province.

 

I salute every clean cop who diligently tries their best to protect our communities. I thank every individual who raises the alarm on corruption and illegal activities – regardless of whether the offender holds a position of authority.

 

 

Media enquiries:

Ewald Botha, Spokesperson

[Pure Savage]

So his "poverty made me do it defence" is not going to go too far.

 

Must admit on my long in the past  visits to Pollsmoor as a defence attorney I had trouble telling who was a guard and who was an inmate - their general demenour was very similar...

 

One job I do not envy at all.

[Gen]

Oh man.. the charges brought forward, that poor girl, she must have been so frightened. Makes me so angry, thoughts go out to her family.

[Tumbleweed]

You have got to be kidding me

 

Wish I was. Was in the stories my colleagues in CT filed to me this morning.

[Gen]

Wish I was. Was in the stories my colleagues in CT filed to me this morning.

Crazy, no wonder he wants to go there, daddy will sort him out and probably get him out.

[Edge_Design]

Yep. IIRC, on an interview on Cape Talk with one of the commanders, Provincial Govt only controls approx 2% of the police force in the WC. 

 

Regarding the police work here though - an interesting point was raised by John Maytham yesterday, regarding how it HASN'T been the police keeping the media up to date. Nor was it "stern police work" in locating the phone or crims - it was all the community. All the police did was follow up on the cell signal when it was turned on again - something they do regularly when it comes to stolen phones. 

 

Not saying the khayelitsha police are better, but incompetent police work is all over. It may not be that Khayelitsha receives "less focus" than suburbs - it may just be that the okes in charge / on the beat at Khayelitsha are just lazy ass mofos...

 

There is an extremely active neighbourhood watch in this area with many police reservists and security companies very actively involved in it as well. It's these people - and the financial resources and technology available to them - who drive the process and ensure everything possible is done in these areas. Without that, SAPS in the area would also be a bunch of people trying to get through their 8(?) hour shifts as easily as possible to earn their salary as probably happens in the less advantaged areas. 

 

It is, however, really great to see the Westlake community got involved in this as well and have even been protesting at the court today. Clearly this incident has impacted everyone to the point of race and privilege not being an issue (apart from the deputy minister of course who seems disappointed that this case is moving along swiftly - I'm not defending the way that case is handled, but she shouldn't be so insensitive as to start comparing murders).