Van Gaalens Shooting

[ChUkKy]

 

 

If these dogs were attacking small farm animals, do you think they would be able to differentiate between a goat and a 4 year old child?  Both approximately the same size?

 

Seen some okes climb the hills at VG?

they could be mistaken for goats easily 

[Undun]

Next thing you know people will be shooting Hippos at Heia Safari     ..... again...

[scotty]

Talk about tough parenting, some real tough guys and girls here, they would have no problem with their kid witnessing an animal get blasted by a shotgun. That the dogs should be removed as they pose a threat, no question, but the manner in how it is done for a problem humans created. 

[dre]

I suppose it would be a waste of time laying charges, his word against theirs?

 

Discharging a fire arm at a picnic spot (public space)??

 

Not a crime in itself. Someone will have to be able to prove negligence, recklessness, or some or other wrongful act, but just discharging a fire arm in public is not a criminal offence. In terms of shooting the dogs, animal cruelty must be proved, but from reading their statement it seems there won't be a case made against them for that as there seems to be enough evidence that the dogs were a danger to property and people.  

[rouxtjie]

Imagine if we get the same outrage from all the bedwetters every time a farmer is murdered. Yes the kids saw it but is the outrage really necessary?

The siekuus poep brigade really gives me gatkramp oom. They have no handle on reality, they live to inflame and cry foul sitting in their little glass houses.

 

A dog(more like a jackal to be honest) got shot since it posed a threat to patrons kids. The right call was made given the situation. Well done Eric, I will continue supporting you given how you handled this.

 

PS I wonder if any of the siekuus poepers have seen these africanus hunting dogs in action on a duiker....think being eaten alive.

[rouxtjie]

Talk about tough parenting, some real tough guys and girls here, they would have no problem with their kid witnessing an animal get blasted by a shotgun. That the dogs should be removed as they pose a threat, no question, but the manner in how it is done for a problem humans created. 

I hear you scotty, obviously not the most ideal way ito eliminating them but then again...these "dogs" don't come when being called....they are not domesticated animals AT ALL. It was the best solution given the situation.

[madmarc]

I was there when this happened. Having lunch with my family. I saw the farmer walk past us with a shotgun. Someone else asked what was up. He explained there was a problem with feral dogs killing his livestock and posing a danger to visitors. We looked across towards the dam and the one dog was standing there stalking the ducks and other birds who had now moved into the water after being chased by the dog.

 

Not sure what dog it was but it was a big dog (Rottweiler size) and didn't look friendly. The farmer walked down to the reeds on the path where rides start and a farm worker walked down towards where the dog was. It had just climbed through the fence and was standing underneath a tree. When the farm worker chased the dog, it just stood there not afraid at all. It eventually sauntered off into the reeds, after which we heard a shot. This was obv when the farmer shot the dog.

 

However:- 10 min before the shot went off the farmer stood talking to a family having a picnic near the reeds. This was just as you turn left on the trail before the reeds and river. The family had packed up and were walking back up towards the parking lot, they were actually in the parking area when the shot went off. So I question the distance they were from the actual killing, and no way was the kid anywhere close enough to witness the killing. Unless there was another family in the vicinity. I doubt very much that the farmer would have discharged the shotgun in such close proximity of people and children.

 

Maybe the farmer could have dealt with this differently, everyone will have their opinions, be they right or wrong.

 

But understand this. Feral dogs or wild dogs are extremely dangerous. In packs they will not hesitate to attack an adult human, and alone they will attack and eat a child without hesitation. These dogs hunt for food without discrimination and cannot be rehabilitated back to a domestic dog even when caught. They are also very intelligent and difficult to catch.

I deal with farmers every day, and have heard how these packs have taken out fully grown cattle, and in one instance a fully grown bull.

 

The only remedy is to hunt them and shoot them.

 

I wonder what the response would have been if this same dog had attacked the family while they were having a picnic and mauled or killed their child !!! The farmer would have been blamed as well for not keeping his guests safe.

 

I support what the farmer did.

[karma]

I was there when this happened. Having lunch with my family. I saw the farmer walk past us with a shotgun. Someone else asked what was up. He explained there was a problem with feral dogs killing his livestock and posing a danger to visitors. We looked across towards the dam and the one dog was standing there stalking the ducks and other birds who had now moved into the water after being chased by the dog.

 

Not sure what dog it was but it was a big dog (Rottweiler size) and didn't look friendly. The farmer walked down to the reeds on the path where rides start and a farm worker walked down towards where the dog was. It had just climbed through the fence and was standing underneath a tree. When the farm worker chased the dog, it just stood there not afraid at all. It eventually sauntered off into the reeds, after which we heard a shot. This was obv when the farmer shot the dog.

 

However:- 10 min before the shot went off the farmer stood talking to a family having a picnic near the reeds. This was just as you turn left on the trail before the reeds and river. The family had packed up and were walking back up towards the parking lot, they were actually in the parking area when the shot went off. So I question the distance they were from the actual killing, and no way was the kid anywhere close enough to witness the killing. Unless there was another family in the vicinity. I doubt very much that the farmer would have discharged the shotgun in such close proximity of people and children.

 

Maybe the farmer could have dealt with this differently, everyone will have their opinions, be they right or wrong.

 

But understand this. Feral dogs or wild dogs are extremely dangerous. In packs they will not hesitate to attack an adult human, and alone they will attack and eat a child without hesitation. These dogs hunt for food without discrimination and cannot be rehabilitated back to a domestic dog even when caught. They are also very intelligent and difficult to catch.

I deal with farmers every day, and have heard how these packs have taken out fully grown cattle, and in one instance a fully grown bull.

 

The only remedy is to hunt them and shoot them.

 

I wonder what the response would have been if this same dog had attacked the family while they were having a picnic and mauled or killed their child !!! The farmer would have been blamed as well for not keeping his guests safe.

 

I support what the farmer did.

 

Thanks, thread can be closed now.

[Halfdoesyn]

I was there when this happened. Having lunch with my family. I saw the farmer walk past us with a shotgun. Someone else asked what was up. He explained there was a problem with feral dogs killing his livestock and posing a danger to visitors. We looked across towards the dam and the one dog was standing there stalking the ducks and other birds who had now moved into the water after being chased by the dog.

 

Not sure what dog it was but it was a big dog (Rottweiler size) and didn't look friendly. The farmer walked down to the reeds on the path where rides start and a farm worker walked down towards where the dog was. It had just climbed through the fence and was standing underneath a tree. When the farm worker chased the dog, it just stood there not afraid at all. It eventually sauntered off into the reeds, after which we heard a shot. This was obv when the farmer shot the dog.

 

However:- 10 min before the shot went off the farmer stood talking to a family having a picnic near the reeds. This was just as you turn left on the trail before the reeds and river. The family had packed up and were walking back up towards the parking lot, they were actually in the parking area when the shot went off. So I question the distance they were from the actual killing, and no way was the kid anywhere close enough to witness the killing. Unless there was another family in the vicinity. I doubt very much that the farmer would have discharged the shotgun in such close proximity of people and children.

 

Maybe the farmer could have dealt with this differently, everyone will have their opinions, be they right or wrong.

 

But understand this. Feral dogs or wild dogs are extremely dangerous. In packs they will not hesitate to attack an adult human, and alone they will attack and eat a child without hesitation. These dogs hunt for food without discrimination and cannot be rehabilitated back to a domestic dog even when caught. They are also very intelligent and difficult to catch.

I deal with farmers every day, and have heard how these packs have taken out fully grown cattle, and in one instance a fully grown bull.

 

The only remedy is to hunt them and shoot them.

 

I wonder what the response would have been if this same dog had attacked the family while they were having a picnic and mauled or killed their child !!! The farmer would have been blamed as well for not keeping his guests safe.

 

I support what the farmer did.

Thank you. Finally a first hand account.

 

Many people more rabid than dogs.

[SwissVan]

That's nonsense.

Even if it was a human, I wouldn't give a damn.

I just said in a PM, that if there was a human that was a threat to my family, I would even do the same. Hate me, I don't care. 

 

LOL no ones hating anyone

My point was that's its just so typical human to pull out a gun to solve problems, EXCEPT of course if it was a human problem then a different logic prevails...because its human they are protected  (yours might be different iaw your post above).

 

 

lol how is your skinny moca latte this AM Swiss....them damn first world problems.

 

That only happens at 11am, after my golf practice

 

I got chased by a first world farm dog that damn near bit me, the first world farmer just stood and watched (i was on an official walking trail, not private property) i think they both were rabid...should i have shot them both or just the dog?

 

I hope it was that bastard dog that pissed on my wheels some time back. Id rather have the rabid dogs shot than risk them biting any of the patrons, kids or even a rider in the bush...

 

With all this *** thats going down, I just beg one thing from VG.

 

Keep the beers cold for when I finish my rides there!

 

Rabid eh? Lets not start rumours now  

[MTBeer]

Now they can start marketing a cheese with a more robust smell and taste.

 

Dead Dog Cheese

that's a cheesy joke...

[SwissVan]

Thanks, thread can be closed now.

 

Only if i can have the last word

 

Humans.......

[MTBeer]

The siekuus poep brigade really gives me gatkramp oom. They have no handle on reality, they live to inflame and cry foul sitting in their little glass houses.

 

A dog(more like a jackal to be honest) got shot since it posed a threat to patrons kids. The right call was made given the situation. Well done Eric, I will continue supporting you given how you handled this.

 

PS I wonder if any of the siekuus poepers have seen these africanus hunting dogs in action on a duiker....think being eaten alive.

it is the age of the terminally offended.

 

Farking Libtards

[Undun]

For the tough parents...

[karma]

Hope the recollection of the actual events make it to the FB page as well, seems like the villagers are ready to attack the owners. 

 

And while we're at it, I hope VG sue some of the haters for defamation...you know...your names are all next to your comments on FB...

[GlockG4]

Sjoe i am really shocked at most of the responses here. Everyone here seems to think that that dog was only a threat to small children,which it was, big time! Ever heard of rabies? Lets change a few names in the story and see what your reaction is.

"I was at VG this weekend, had a very lovely picnic with the family, when a haina suddenly appeared 50m from me and my small child. Before it had a chance to kill me or my one of my family members the owner came out and shot it. We were very lucky because that particular haina was on a killing rampage the two days prior, so it was clearly a real and immanent threat that the farmer saved us from."

Surely the response would have been.

"thank you VG for saving our lives, you guys were probably on the hunt for this animal for some time and did not want to risk anyone's lives by asking it nicely to leave us alone and to go away."

If that dog had rabies and attacked you on the trail, would you not have came on the hub and said "Rabies dog bit me at VG, farmers did nothing to prevent, i will take this further".

Come on guys, these people, and everyone els was in danger. You want the farmer to trap them? Think of what those THINGS could have done in the time it took to set a trap, and by the way, a trap is not animal specific, so now you want to endanger all the other wildlife? As for shooting it infront of the child, i agree, not ideal but they where probably tracking it for a while and did not want to risk losing it again. To my mind that farmer is a hero and deserves a Bells.

Sorry rant off.