Hout Bay Incident: Do you know this cyclist?

[Pah Bear]

Ai Ja you so right. Taking things into our own hands will solve all the worlds ills.

 

Guess he might have been frustrated at the cyclist who cut him off before you got there. Really hope he has a short memory and don't wait until you look away, ... or God forbid I come past.

[Wannabe]

Ai Ja you so right. Taking things into our own hands will solve all the worlds ills.

 

Guess he might have been frustrated at the cyclist who cut him off before you got there. Really hope he has a short memory and don't wait until you look away, ... or God forbid I come past.

 

Don't fret, you are safe.

This happened upcountry.

 

So you can relax your sphincter now.     

[Headshot]

I have been told that the original FB post is bollocks as far as the pepper spray is concerned. The motorist hooted at a single cyclist who almost fell or did fall off in fright. An altercation ensued. I haven't spoken directly to a witness so can't vouch for the info but it comes from a someone I have known for years. No doubt the facts will come out in the wash.

[Pah Bear]

Never. I'll crap myself if I did,   but appreciate you keeping your condiment incidents distant.   . Sorry for all the rest out there. 

[nonky]

If giving lip entails how the lip-giver will f*ck up the lip- receiver while riding in a vehicle that can be used as a weapon I believe the lip-receiver have every right to defend himself. It is called self defense and is a defensible action that will stand in court. 

 

NO, it is NOT.

 

Physical violence cannot be justified by a VERBAL threat / abuse.  

 

[Well, that's how it was in the old days...]

[shaper]

I have been told that the original FB post is bollocks as far as the pepper spray is concerned. The motorist hooted at a single cyclist who almost fell or did fall off in fright. An altercation ensued. I haven't spoken directly to a witness so can't vouch for the info but it comes from a someone I have known for years. No doubt the facts will come out in the wash.

So the 3rd side of the story is emerging....

[andydude]

[porqui]

I have been told that the original FB post is bollocks as far as the pepper spray is concerned. The motorist hooted at a single cyclist who almost fell or did fall off in fright. An altercation ensued. I haven't spoken directly to a witness so can't vouch for the info but it comes from a someone I have known for years. No doubt the facts will come out in the wash.

 

He used pepper spay  -  fact!!

 

 

(no wash needed)

[Patchelicious]

He used pepper spay - fact!!

 

 

(no wash needed)

How do you know this for a fact?

 

I'm not fighting, promise, but when things are stated as fact, one can ask.

 

So if he indeed, for a fact, used pepper spray, then one part of the debate can be put to bed.

[No Hare]

NO, it is NOT.

 

Physical violence cannot be justified by a VERBAL threat / abuse.  

 

[Well, that's how it was in the old days...]

Actually it is, specifically regarding the threat aspect. Abuse is another matter..

 

Remember that verbal interaction isn't the only aspect that comes into play. Body language and physical actions etc. must also be taken into consideration. By observing the actions of a aggressor and been able to deduce that a verbal attack will escalated into a imminent physical attack, then you have all the right to defend yourself.

 

I will and have defended myself in situations that quickly escalated in such a way. 

[porqui]

How do you know this for a fact?

 

I'm not fighting, promise, but when things are stated as fact, one can ask.

 

So if he indeed, for a fact, used pepper spray, then one part of the debate can be put to bed.

 

Is a signature in SAPS incident book good enough for you?

 

I will give you three facts and then you make up your mind.

He was not as far left in the left lane as he could have been.

She used hooter.

He used pepper spray.

You figure.

[porqui]

Actually it is, specifically regarding the threat aspect. Abuse is another matter..

 

Remember that verbal interaction isn't the only aspect that comes into play. Body language and physical actions etc. must also be taken into consideration. By observing the actions of a aggressor and been able to deduce that a verbal attack will escalated into a imminent physical attack, then you have all the right to defend yourself.

 

I will and have defended myself in situations that quickly escalated in such a way. 

 

There was no verbal threat.

There was no physical threat.

 

(And not perceived either)

[bikebloke]

Is a signature in SAPS incident book good enough for you?

 

I will give you three facts and then you make up your mind.

He was not as far left in the left lane as he could have been.

She used hooter.

He used pepper spray.

You figure.

 

actually that signature (unless its his (the perp) ) means nothing it just means that someone said it happened that way

 

but you seem aggressively determined to win this silly argument so .. 

 

ok I just say I believe you so we can all move on

[porqui]

(bikebloke)

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How do we know it even happened?

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[Patchelicious]

There was no verbal threat.

There was no physical threat.

 

(And not perceived either)

So this guy just picked some random stranger to pepper spray without any reason???? What a ********!

[Patchelicious]

Is a signature in SAPS incident book good enough for you?

 

I will give you three facts and then you make up your mind.

He was not as far left in the left lane as he could have been.

She used hooter.

He used pepper spray.

You figure.

Cool, so somebody went to the cops. Then at least the law can take its course.

 

Look, there are 3 outcomes here. Either he was a dwis, she was a dwisette or they both acted like dwissi.

 

Either way, I hope the guilty party gets the correct naughty naughty treatment.