PPA HillClimb Seeding - Discussion :)

['Dale]

all I know is I went up two notches after the Taal Monument hill climb

#lungburner

[Pure Savage]

he has the potential to become a good cyclist but wont unless he gets over that mental block.

This is exactly why HC don't work...

 

 

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[Winstonian1984]

All u guys moaning about Hill climbs when all I want is a pan flat individual TT with a beta of 1.2.

LOL....I'll second you on that

[The Crazy German]

If you have a valid case you don't have to go through the PPA alphabet soup. Took me exactly 2 PPA events and a church funride to get from Z to A with even an appology from PPA back in the days. Be polite chat with them, bring some data and let the legs do the rest of the talking.

[devocean]

 

You know as well as I do your pace during any race is mostly determined by group you riding in/with, so I can actually turn around and tell you that before the hill climb was introduced , the system was unfair, as B-C riders had very little chance of actually getting into A. 

 

I wouldn't say it was unfair, it definitely made it a little harder and take a little longer to get a good seeding. I'll give you an example from my experience...

 

October 2014 I had a PPA seeding of E - rode the One Tonner in C-D group (bigger groups in bigger races). Finished well and was given a new seeding of B.

 

A month later at the next race I started in group B mixed with A and finished just outside of top 10 (was a smaller race)

 

Then a couple weeks after that, got a $ start in Stellenbosch cycle tour and had a good finish

 

So that's a jump from E to A in 6 weeks (or 3 races) with no hill climb events. If you look at the Pure Savage dudes, I reckon it's similar story with them and they're all in A now.

 

A key thing there, is that to move up, it helps to have some races where they combine groups, which I've noticed that they've stopped doing since the hill climb events started  (.ie. A, B, C etc. seem to always start separately now - except for the bigger races). So actually they've made it a bit unfair for the guys that can't climb and a bit too easy for guys that can ONLY climb

 

These are just my observations. I'm a noob, I may be wrong

[andydude]

Can somebody please share the starting and finishing points please? Better still, a strava link. Tx!

[devocean]

Can somebody please share the starting and finishing points please? Better still, a strava link. Tx!

 

...share the starting and finishing points or strava link for what exactly?

[andydude]

...share the starting and finishing points or strava link for what exactly?

The PPA hillclimb. That's what this thread is about, right [emoji15]

[Skubarra]

The PPA hillclimb. That's what this thread is about, right [emoji15]

 

There were a few of them at different places...

[Skubarra]

And I found this post of Stricker from last year - now I understand better where he is coming from with this thread (and I can't help but notice how he answered his own question on what is wrong with basing your seeding on one hill climb)

 

 

 

 

 Posted by Stricker on 19 October 2015 - 07:52

Did my first One Tonner and I enjoyed it.(been cycling for +- 1 year)

 

I am one of the guys that took part in the Hill Climb and jumped from G to A

THANK U PPA . If it wasn't for that I would have still been stuck in G

 

Did the West Coast Ex in A, was dropped up a little drag but finished with all the other dropped A riders.

Do I belong in A?

Depends who you ask...leave that for another day.

[andydude]

There were a few of them at different places...

Ok thanks. Was wanting to see how I compare.