Absa Cape Epic 2017

[coppi]

Myles, Joel has Completed 7( yes 7) epics in a row!

I'm sure he is qualified and experienced..........

 

 

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[Vetseun]

Off topic as we were,

What else did I miss

Where is the HUBBERS who are competing list????

They are still waiting to push their bikes around the obstacles.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Myles honestly I think maybe they just on the different end of the spear as to the speeds they going down there,,,unless I am missing something and over the last few years you have become a pro, I honestly don't know maybe I'm wrong and I will apologize as I always do when I put my foot or my whole leg in it.

You can always jump on the route and prove me wrong

yeah, man... Maybe. But even if they WERE, the mechanics of getting bucked are the same regardless of the speed.

 

One of or a combination of 3 things. Incorrect settings on the rebound circuit on the shock; staying seated whilst hitting it full taps; standing but just in a dead sailor position hoping your speed will give you a good arc, without lifting the front off the lip. 

 

Now tiredness could definitely play a part, as they may have forgotten to preload or lift the front as they hit the lip. If the rebound setting was off, it'd exacerbate the issue as the back would kick up as it left the lip. 

[coppi]

And the mechanics of jumping lectures start..........

I am a Mechanical Engineer if anybody wants to know ( not ) really I am

 

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[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Myles, Joel has Completed 7( yes 7) epics in a row!

I'm sure he is qualified and experienced..........

 

 

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What does that have to do with his skillset? Full credit to him, he's certainly got the experience on the route itself and in accessing the hurt locker. But completing 7 epics does not imbue one with technical proficiency. 

 

By the way - I think we may be talking across each other. I have been referring to the guys you can see have been bucked on a jump. I don't know how Joel came off, I just know he came off on the Gorge section - not whether it was on a jump, or washed out in a corner, or on the steep drop-off. 

[Vetseun]

yeah, man... Maybe. But even if they WERE, the mechanics of getting bucked are the same regardless of the speed.

 

One of or a combination of 3 things. Incorrect settings on the rebound circuit on the shock; staying seated whilst hitting it full taps; standing but just in a dead sailor position hoping your speed will give you a good arc, without lifting the front off the lip. 

 

Now tiredness could definitely play a part, as they may have forgotten to preload or lift the front as they hit the lip. If the rebound setting was off, it'd exacerbate the issue as the back would kick up as it left the lip.

 

You are being bloody disrespectful to people that have spent months preparing for this. Physically, mentally as well as technically.As usual, you are TALKING a big game.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

And the mechanics of jumping lectures start..........

I am a Mechanical Engineer if anybody wants to know ( not ) really I am

 

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jeepers dude, who pissed in your tequila. 

[coppi]

jeepers dude, who pissed in your tequila.

noboby dude, but you are being far too clever on a Sunday of a long weekend

 

 

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[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

You are being bloody disrespectful to people that have spent months preparing for this. Physically, mentally as well as technically.As usual, you are TALKING a big game.

Vettes - Just HOW am I being disrespectful by pointing out what may have happened?!

 

I'm gutted that Joel is out, personally. I wanted him to do well again this year. He's certainly been working on his prep for the race. 

 

I don't want ANYONE to crash out. The prep that they put in is remarkable, and i personally wouldn't be able to do it. But at the same time, people should also concentrate more on skills over and above their fitness, in order to prevent instances like that. In my opinion, there would be far less carnage on the prologue and in general if entrants concentrated on skill AND fitness. 

[jcza]

Stop arguing and answer my question re the rainbow stripes!!

[Vetseun]

Stop arguing and answer my question re the rainbow stripes!!

Hahahaaaa

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

Stop arguing and answer my question re the rainbow stripes!!

Dunno, tbh. It's not the discipline he specialises in, and IIRC he doesn't have an XCM WC in his belt, or does he? Would the olympics count? But then that's also XCO... 

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

I have ridden with a few Epic veterans (those amaboepens ouens) who have great legs and Vasbyt, just enough skill to get the tech stuff done. It is when they get tired that the reactions and instinctive reactions are a bit slow. Remember, these okes didn't grow up with xco racing and there skill level is slowly getting better as the Epic gets more demanding. Not a lot of guys go for skills coaching.

 

But it could be anything, sometimes she!te happens. Burry fell due to a branch in the spokes. And he had skills for days. Even the pros crash. That's part of Epic.

I fell twice when riding epic, one was while showing off for a camera man on a river crossing that was deeper than expected, the other was on a straight gravel road while taking off my sunglasses. Fortunately the only damage was wet gear and considerable ego deflation on both occasions.

100%. I was merely suggesting the reasons that they would have gone OTB on a jump. 

 

But then I haven't done an epic or any other multi day event, so I'm "not qualified to comment"

 

SMH. 

[PhilipV]

8 Stages. You are definately not going to win it. Maybe I would also rather not take on obstacles that I normally would. It costs a crap load of money, a finishers medal is something to be very proud of. Err on the side of caution rather than risk it?

I think that is how I would do it So maybe not a lack of skills. IMO

100% agreed.

No one worries if you came 100th or 20th or 450th. You finished Epic, so you are one of the Manne or one of the Tannies (sometimes being PC doesn't translate well.)

 

To Err on the side of caution is definitely the way to go. Whether on Epic, Sani2C, local kerk bazaar race or a ride with your mates. If you want to be competitive you need to finish it first to be first.

 

Even if it is the prologue, okes are gooiing and definitely being competitive. It is a race after all, when the red mist descends on you a lot of pre agreed strategies go out of the window. And sometimes that adrenalin rush pushes them to 11/10. Couple that with tiredness and low focus levels and this is when mistakes happen.

 

Also remember that one person's idea of conservative is another's "is hy dan mal?"

 

I heard a story of that year when Philip Buys was riding with Nino. On the Vissies Magic singletrack Phil was in front and klapping it, and Nino was on his wheel, chowing an energy bar. I can't even remember my name when I am trying to klap it down there.

Or Kevin Ev grinding a climb while Nino was practising his no handed wheelies behind him.

 

 

 

Man I can't wait for the rest of this week's drama.

[Captain Fastbastard Mayhem]

100% agreed.

No one worries if you came 100th or 20th or 450th. You finished Epic, so you are one of the Manne or one of the Tannies (sometimes being PC doesn't translate well.)

 

To Err on the side of caution is definitely the way to go. Whether on Epic, Sani2C, local kerk bazaar race or a ride with your mates. If you want to be competitive you need to finish it first to be first.

 

Even if it is the prologue, okes are gooiing and definitely being competitive. It is a race after all, when the red mist descends on you a lot of pre agreed strategies go out of the window. And sometimes that adrenalin rush pushes them to 11/10. Couple that with tiredness and low focus levels and this is when mistakes happen.

 

Also remember that one person's idea of conservative is another's "is hy dan mal?"

 

I heard a story of that year when Philip Buys was riding with Nino. On the Vissies Magic singletrack Phil was in front and klapping it, and Nino was on his wheel, chowing an energy bar. I can't even remember my name when I am trying to klap it down there.

Or Kevin Ev grinding a climb while Nino was practising his no handed wheelies behind him.

 

 

 

Man I can't wait for the rest of this week's drama.

yep. Agree fully. Things I consider "easy" would take on a different note if I still had 7 days to ride and I'd just spend 38k & 10 months prep on an entry. 

[PhilipV]

Stop arguing and answer my question re the rainbow stripes!!

Maybe the UCI wrote N1no an official letter asking him if they may change the rules so that he can wear his rainbow stripes?