rudi-h Posted May 17, 2017 Share *hi-jack is there a real lasting market for plus bikes, or is it just a craze that will blow over? If plus tyres were so grippy and great, why don't we see them on DH rigs? How much slower are these bikes when riding a 70km marathon? cool looking bikes, but I'm not yet sold on which terrain / distances a plus size will be your weapon of choice. *hi-jack off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubehunter Posted May 17, 2017 Share A plus bike will be my next bike! For the fun factor alone, plus the versatility! Probably gonna go with the Scott Genius 720 when the time comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted May 17, 2017 Share silverback or merida! edit: I would always go for a bike with a better fork ... groupset parts are consumables that are "cheap" to upgrade vs a fork! edit no. 2: the merida with the Yari would get my ZAR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the nerd Posted May 17, 2017 Share *hi-jack is there a real lasting market for plus bikes, or is it just a craze that will blow over? If plus tyres were so grippy and great, why don't we see them on DH rigs? How much slower are these bikes when riding a 70km marathon? cool looking bikes, but I'm not yet sold on which terrain / distances a plus size will be your weapon of choice. *hi-jack off Absolutely love mine! Ride it every weekend, up hills, down hills, XC tracks you name it. How slow/fast is it, doesn't matter. How fun is it? The most fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted May 17, 2017 Share *hi-jack is there a real lasting market for plus bikes, or is it just a craze that will blow over? If plus tyres were so grippy and great, why don't we see them on DH rigs? How much slower are these bikes when riding a 70km marathon? cool looking bikes, but I'm not yet sold on which terrain / distances a plus size will be your weapon of choice. *hi-jack offDH rigs - not yet a tyre with durable enough sidewall protection and adequate tread in an acceptable weight. DH bikes had the ORIGINAL plus tyre in the 3.0" Nokian Gazzaloddi, but it weighed a TON. How much slower? Well... dunno, really. Depends on the casing weight and rotational inertia, I suppose. Also what terrain you're talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hairy Posted May 17, 2017 Share *hi-jack is there a real lasting market for plus bikes, or is it just a craze that will blow over? If plus tyres were so grippy and great, why don't we see them on DH rigs? How much slower are these bikes when riding a 70km marathon? cool looking bikes, but I'm not yet sold on which terrain / distances a plus size will be your weapon of choice. *hi-jack offRight tool for the job at hand ... you are not exactly going to be pulling out a 160mm travel Duallie for a Marathon either ... can you certainly ride a marathon on one, but then you would not really be that concerned with finishing times anyway ... or else you would have pulled out a sharp handling 100mm max travel race rig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lechatnoir Posted May 17, 2017 Share edit no. 2: the merida with the Yari would get my ZAR That was my thinking too. Then the YT special came out and the following considerations were considered. Considerably... Pike vs YariYT reputationDropper was includedCheaper (well, than a Chameleon at least) Yes, it's a different bike, but I only had enough cashola for one bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansolo Posted May 17, 2017 Share I have a Surly Krampus (29+ with rigid fork) as my N+1 bike. Once it is up to speed, it keeps speed really well and it's not too bad for most places I ride. 650B+ could work for you as "normal" 29" wheels will easily fit on the bike and suspension forks is readily available. Has anyone tried 29" for front wheel and 650B+ on the back, I think it would be a good mix. Not so sold on the Surly Knard tires though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the nerd Posted May 17, 2017 Share I have a Surly Krampus (29+ with rigid fork) as my N+1 bike. Once it is up to speed, it keeps speed really well and it's not too bad for most places I ride. 650B+ could work for you as "normal" 29" wheels will easily fit on the bike and suspension forks is readily available. Has anyone tried 29" for front wheel and 650B+ on the back, I think it would be a good mix. Not so sold on the Surly Knard tires though.. My brother just put a chronicle on his Krampus and its night and day compared to his Knards.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansolo Posted May 17, 2017 Share My brother just put a chronicle on his Krampus and its night and day compared to his Knards.. Umm, I still have alot of life left in the Knards... I'll start shopping around for some Chronicles, very happy with Maxxis on my other bike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaGearA Posted May 17, 2017 Share *hi-jack is there a real lasting market for plus bikes, or is it just a craze that will blow over? If plus tyres were so grippy and great, why don't we see them on DH rigs? How much slower are these bikes when riding a 70km marathon? cool looking bikes, but I'm not yet sold on which terrain / distances a plus size will be your weapon of choice. *hi-jack offI'm not dead sure about this but at the speed Dh riders go and how much force they put into the tyres I think the tyres will start to roll , maybe not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ians H2Sport Posted May 17, 2017 Share My wife has the Fuse. Basic bike, easy to maintain, fun to ride, looks great. Happy wife, happy life... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Fastbastard Mayhem Posted May 17, 2017 Share I'm not dead sure about this but at the speed Dh riders go and how much force they put into the tyres I think the tyres will start to roll , maybe notWith the current sidewalls yes. I don't know how much a 2.8 minion DHF double down would weigh and tbh I dunno if I want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregkeble Posted May 29, 2017 Share Got a Scott Spark 710 Plus. I've done quite a few rides on it. On rough, rocky, loose, dry trails (ie. Western Cape) I'm now convinced that plus tyres and boost hubs are the future. Lots of fun, loads of traction, smooth ride, hardly any rolling resistance penalty - rock gardens are a breeze. I suspect the reasons you don't see boost/plus rigs in rough terrain marathon races yet are:- too new, people havent found out how good they are yet- concern for vulnerability of the tyres to sidewall damage (read a lot about it. no issues yet)- concern over lack of race support for tyre sizeI think those issues will get sorted and we'll see a lot of them before long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skinnyone Posted May 29, 2017 Share Nice thing about the Trek Stache is that you are not limited to one wheel size...it comes out the box as a 29+ but you can fit standard 29 wheels and tyres, 27.5+, or 27.5 standard...it has a sliding dropout to adjust for the different wheel sizes. your choice is not limited in terms of gearing either due to this sliding dropout...and they start around R30k for the Alu model all the way up...so not "too" expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the nerd Posted May 29, 2017 Share Nice thing about the Trek Stache is that you are not limited to one wheel size...it comes out the box as a 29+ but you can fit standard 29 wheels and tyres, 27.5+, or 27.5 standard...it has a sliding dropout to adjust for the different wheel sizes. your choice is not limited in terms of gearing either due to this sliding dropout...and they start around R30k for the Alu model all the way up...so not "too" expensive. As it is with any plus bike.. I can fit 29", 27.5+ and 27,5+ The only one I cant fit is 29+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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