Creaking bike, loud.

[KingZA]

I got to

during the emperors challenge

 before my eyes bled. Profusely.

 

Did you manage to get if fixed?

[_im_from_earth]

Thanks BaGearA ill check them out, I also saw some enduro BB which fits into a Press fit BB, not sure if it would work on my BB, which is BB95 I think.

 

Hey Neil

 

Feel free to give me a buzz today in the office and I can give you some advice on your options. Far too much to go into here I'm afraid. Long and short is your options are reasonably limited on the Trek due to the BB standard they employed on their older models, but we do have a solution that should get you sorted.

[Skinnyone]

Good reply from Andre there - he knows his stuff.

 

Are you 100% sure that the pivot bearing bores are not oversize? I have heard of the same thing happening to the pivots as the BB's. Again Trek either repairs it or replaces the frame under warranty - to the original owner....If you're not the original owner they generally will do the repair option (costs about R900 and is factory approved) or offer a discount on a new frame...

[Neil Mc]

Hi all, sorry been busy, here is bit of update, I have done a second and third ride, bit of mud to add to the mix, and the bike is still Silent, i'm a happy chappy :-)

[Heel Drop]

the curse of the creeking noise ........

The story ( only rumours) is that if you don't look after your bike ...........

Wash it every week even if you did not ride

Lube it every week even if you did not go for a ride

Give it lots of care and attention - sometimes it needs more then your wife OR the curse of the creeking noise may come looking for you

[Neil Mc]

Howzit guys, 

some more feedback..

I resolved the issue, creaking slowly started to come back into play, not as loud and creaky as before but same sensation as prior experienced, I got my friend to ride next to me on tarmac

to see what he thought, he was convinced the noise was coming from the cassette, anyway long

story short, I had not been keen to replace cassette just yet as its R2500 and didn't want to go that route especially if it turns out to not be the issue, never the less I took the dive and replaced cassette and chain, and rear hub bearings along with freehub bearings, and noise no longer there :-) I can only assume that the oil in the bike managed to travel along the chain to the cassette in turn lubing it enough to remove the noise for a short while! its not as if I hadn't lubed the cassette prior, however I had been using silicone lubricant, I like the product as it tends to not attract much dust, it could have been a worn chain however the chain was only 5 months old, and i'm a weekend warrior, cassette was around 1.5 yrs old.. I still think the oil trick is useful as a temporary fix, if you don't have cash and can't find where the creak is coming from :-/ but as pointed out earlier, the LBS may not be too happy that the inside of the frame has oil residue on it! For me it served a purpose whilst I went through the motions of problem solving the issue.. Much appreciated for all the comments :-)

 

For the record, I would have sworn it was the BB as it very much sounded like it was coming from the BB, there was a feeling that came through the crank arms into my feet that felt like the bearings or something in the BB.. They do say the sound can travel, but its hard to believe when all your senses are telling you otherwise!

If I had a friend with the same thru-axle etc, I would have swapped the wheels out to see if it resolved the issue, in this case it would have narrowed the creak down to the wheels, which would be much better than just hoping it was the cassette! 

Hope the post can help others diagnose similar issues they are having :-)

[Neil Mc]

And here it is, yet another update on the bloody creaking trek!!! as per above, i changed cassette and thought problem solved, but then after around 5 rides the noise came back, got home and decided to check the rear deralliour out, removed it and extended it open and close, and low and behold the thing creaks, I added lube and it still creaked, I sprayed the whole thing with a lot of lube and it steal creaked, I poured oil into the hole where the bolt goes for the jockey wheel and then added a lot of lube to each pivot point and left over night, hey presto the creaking stopped, nb this seems to be a creaking due to tight fit on the pivot joints, when you extend the deraillour fully out it creaks as you extend, then when fully extended if you move a mm it creaks, my conclusion is that although the deralliour is not active when cycling in gear, there is movement as the chain passes through the jockey wheels, enough to cause the deralliour to move the mm that it needs to make a loud creaking noise...this is apparently a fairly common issue if you google it, creaky deralliour happens especially to XX and XX1.... finally problem solved!!!

[GavS]

I had a loud creaking on my giant anthem. Rebuilt and replaced everything including the bb and still there.

 

Eventually found the issue...the rear qr skewer. Lubricating did the trick.

[Pah Bear]

And here it is, yet another update on the bloody creaking trek!!! as per above, i changed cassette and thought problem solved, but then after around 5 rides the noise came back, got home and decided to check the rear deralliour out, removed it and extended it open and close, and low and behold the thing creaks, I added lube and it still creaked, I sprayed the whole thing with a lot of lube and it steal creaked, I poured oil into the hole where the bolt goes for the jockey wheel and then added a lot of lube to each pivot point and left over night, hey presto the creaking stopped, nb this seems to be a creaking due to tight fit on the pivot joints, when you extend the deraillour fully out it creaks as you extend, then when fully extended if you move a mm it creaks, my conclusion is that although the deralliour is not active when cycling in gear, there is movement as the chain passes through the jockey wheels, enough to cause the deralliour to move the mm that it needs to make a loud creaking noise...this is apparently a fairly common issue if you google it, creaky deralliour happens especially to XX and XX1.... finally problem solved!!!

Thanx for sharing.

 

Creaks haunt us all at some time or the other and the hunt is always frustrating. Sorted mine by lubing the rear QR.

[_im_from_earth]

Just a note, your derailleur wasn't "stiff" as a fault, this is actually the sprag clutch on new style derailleurs. The sprag clutch is essentially a one-way mechanist so the cage of the derailleur had a large amount of tension and friction in one direction, but returns smoothly. This assists in chain retention, particularly on 1X designs. They are assembled with a special grease paste that assists in the friction, and this also prevents them from creaking. Getting your LBS to service and replace the grease / paste will sort your problem out.

[CAAD4]

I just don't buy Scott's. I don't need that kind of negativity and creaking in my life...

[Dexter-morgan]

I just don't buy Scott's. I don't need that kind of negativity and creaking in my life...

I ride a Scott and mine is driving me nuts with the creaking.

[CAAD4]

Between the creaking and the Swiss cheese hubs, no thanks...

[Hairy]

I ride a Scott and mine is driving me nuts with the creaking.

 

 

Between the creaking and the Swiss cheese hubs, no thanks...

 

 

I just don't buy Scott's. I don't need that kind of negativity and creaking in my life...

I never had a Scott bike creak on me ... broken frames and blown shocks though was another story completely

[SwissVan]

the curse of the creeking noise ........

The story ( only rumours) is that if you don't look after your bike ...........

Wash it every week even if you did not ride

Lube it every week even if you did not go for a ride

Give it lots of care and attention - sometimes it needs more then your wife OR the curse of the creeking noise may come looking for you

 

 

Sounds like Neil Mc has already been giving it plenty of attention

But ja, keep it wet and the creaks disappear

S'true

[Dexter-morgan]

I have now Purchased a Screw together BB from Token, I will keep you posted.

https://tokencycling.co.za/shop/2561/