SwissVan Posted April 21, 2017 Share It's Friday hey hey.... time to put this chain lube back into its box Nevermind all the theories, no matter what it's going to happen so accept it and move onto the next topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Buttox Posted April 21, 2017 Share It's Friday hey hey.... time to put this chain lube back into its box Nevermind all the theories, no matter what it's going to happen so accept it and move onto the next topicYou may need a water based lube for that whether it's Friday or not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porqui Posted April 21, 2017 Share my nightshifted mind is not putting emphasis on viscous creep, capillary action etc, but rather macroscopic effects such as mechanical reduction in volumes between chain rollers, bushings and pins, which squeezes lube out, and contact between chainring/cassette teeth and chains squeezing out more viscous forms of lubrication.Once mechanically pursuaded to leave the variable volume between rollers and pins, other macroscopic effects such as gravity and centrifugal forces in a nutshell, i need to go home and sleep! You need help - not just for sleeping!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted April 21, 2017 Share You may need a water based lube for that whether it's Friday or not!Water.... now u mention it ( I really did not want to go there but seeing you started....) water could be the solution to Carbon29's lubrication dilemma. Just water would work as a lubricant and collect less on the outside plates while attracting less dirt as it would clean and lubricate at the same time. Water is also more freely available while out riding, as long as you keep it constantly wet it will work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Buttox Posted April 21, 2017 Share Water.... now u mention it ( I really did not want to go there but seeing you started....) water could be the solution to Carbon29's lubrication dilemma. Just water would work as a lubricant and collect less on the outside plates while attracting less dirt as it would clean and lubricate at the same time. Water is also more freely available while out riding, as long as you keep it constantly wet it will workEven better if you blend in a bit of Dihydrogen Oxide from a spray bottle for a bit of extra homeopathic joy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted April 21, 2017 Share Even better if you blend in a bit of Dihydrogen Oxide from a spray bottle for a bit of extra homeopathic joy! Dangerous stuff to be putting in a spray bottle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Boab Posted April 21, 2017 Share Dangerous stuff to be putting in a spray bottle. True....it's a solvent. Got to be bad for the environment..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Odinson Posted April 21, 2017 Share True....it's a solvent. Got to be bad for the environment..... Studies have shown that animals exposed to the substance will suffer from cellular oxidation and will eventually die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor Buttox Posted April 21, 2017 Share Studies have shown that animals exposed to the substance will suffer from cellular oxidation and will eventually die.I think you are talking about irony oxide which rusts the brain? If it's cellular decay, it's more likely to be carbony than irony. Science rocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Boab Posted April 21, 2017 Share Studies have shown that animals exposed to the substance will suffer from cellular oxidation and will eventually die. One of my favourites........https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dihydrogen_monoxide_hoax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat Boab Posted April 21, 2017 Share I think you are talking about irony oxide which rusts the brain? If it's cellular decay, it's more likely to be carbony than irony. Science rocks! If it's cell based, it'll all be getting too cell-y...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted April 21, 2017 Share Mod note: It may be Friday, but let's put the handbags down, refrain from personal attacks and stick to this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albatross Posted April 21, 2017 Share who-knows-why-a-chain-gets-lube-on-the-outside Because it can Chicken / egg theory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carbon29er Posted April 21, 2017 Share So based on the knowledge gleaned from the logical replies to my original question, which is the best type of lube to use on a dry tar use road bike? Objective is to minimise transmission noise and maximise the longevity of the chain and reduce the residue on the outside of the chain and on the teeth and jockey wheels and reduce necessity to clean said residue from chain and components. Type being main product ingredients rather than brand but as most brands claim some form of unique patented property, listing the brand and type might be beneficial. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazzacpt Posted April 21, 2017 Share So based on the knowledge gleaned from the logical replies to my original question, which is the best type of lube to use on a dry tar use road bike? Objective is to minimise transmission noise and maximise the longevity of the chain and reduce the residue on the outside of the chain and on the teeth and jockey wheels and reduce necessity to clean said residue from chain and components. Type being main product ingredients rather than brand but as most brands claim some form of unique patented property, listing the brand and type might be beneficial.Maybe I'm being silly but on a road bike I use oil and on a MTB I use Squirt wax. My thinking is that proper oil it actually better, it's been used for time eternal in keeping things moving smoothly.Wax is water soluble so it's easier to clean after its been mixed with mud and muck from a trail and you don't have to do a solvent shake to get the chain clean. Wax on a MTB chain also keeps ponds and puddles clean on the trails. One less oil contamination. Although there aren't many puddles in CTP currently. Sent from my SM-A510F using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissVan Posted April 21, 2017 Share So based on the knowledge gleaned from the logical replies to my original question, which is the best type of lube to use on a dry tar use road bike? Objective is to minimise transmission noise and maximise the longevity of the chain and reduce the residue on the outside of the chain and on the teeth and jockey wheels and reduce necessity to clean said residue from chain and components. Type being main product ingredients rather than brand but as most brands claim some form of unique patented property, listing the brand and type might be beneficial.The clever guys at veloplus have done extensive testing on this and the winning chain lube was PETRUSThey take online orders and I could be persuaded to help obtain some if required https://www.veloplus.ch/Mobile/SchmiermittelFettMontagepaste/SchmiermittelfuerKette/PETRUSSCHMIERSTOFFderTestsiegervonVELOPLUS.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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