Schnavel Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 Do you also struggle to remove the Gators on the tubeless rim as I have helped a friend twice now with a puncture on AC's fitted with 25c Gators. We struggled to pull bead back to fit a tyre lever in. I'm also running AC rims (victory 30) and it definitely makes it a lot more tricky with the tubeless bead. What bead gatorskins is your friend running, wire or folding?
Mechanick Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 I also have AC Victory 30 with Gatorskins on and I really STRUGGLE to change a tube in the event of a flat. In races, I lose a minimum of 10 mins just trying to change the tube because I struggle with getting the Gatorskins back onto the rim. I am using the 25mm wire bead version of the tyre
Schnavel Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 I am using the 25mm wire bead version of the tyre I think that may be your issue. The wire bead makes it much stiffer and in conjunction with the snap-in from the tubeless rim, you will really struggle. I have the folding version tyres and although it's more difficult than changing a tyre on a non-tubeless rim, it's not impossible.
Cippo Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 I'm also running AC rims (victory 30) and it definitely makes it a lot more tricky with the tubeless bead. What bead gatorskins is your friend running, wire or folding?Wire bead 25c.
MDJ Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 Before you buy the Schwable Pro One tyres, consider the type of roads you will be riding. Large parts of South Africa have terrible roads. The Schwable Pro One tyres are amazing tyres- very light and offer very low rolling resistance. I eventually gave up on mine as they are very soft tyres and puncture very easily. One ride I got 5 punctures and although they all sealed, I got covered in stans in the process. Also be wary that if you get a sizable hole (piece of glass etc) you will need to patch the tyre as the sealant won't be sufficient at 7 bar - the hole tends to reopen. Ditto, had exactly the same experience with the Schwable Pro-One - amazing to ride but punctures way too often for everyday use and it gets very messy to put in a tube with sealant going everywhere and the tighter fit. In addition at around 1k to replace a tyre it gets expensive. Switched back to tubes with gatorskins - lower cost and almost never get punctures.
MDJ Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 Has anyone tried a mini-plug on road tubeless tyres? A Sahmurai or Ryder kit or similar should work well enough for emergencies. Yeah I've tried it, limited success and I could "feel" the bump at higher speeds - unsettling when cornering at 70kph+
Cippo Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 What Mavic have done is actually develop a wheel and tyre side by side to ensure seamless integration. If this works I might consider tubeless.
Andreas_187 Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 I was getting at least a puncture every 200km using Spez turbo or Mavic tyres. I've covered 1100km on my Schwalbe Pro ones without any. Are people perhaps taking the opportunity to run the tubeless at 70-80psi? I still use the same pressures as tubes/tyres, 100psi.
Thomo Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 Before you buy the Schwable Pro One tyres, consider the type of roads you will be riding. Large parts of South Africa have terrible roads. The Schwable Pro One tyres are amazing tyres- very light and offer very low rolling resistance. I eventually gave up on mine as they are very soft tyres and puncture very easily. One ride I got 5 punctures and although they all sealed, I got covered in stans in the process. Also be wary that if you get a sizable hole (piece of glass etc) you will need to patch the tyre as the sealant won't be sufficient at 7 bar - the hole tends to reopen.I went through the same and now I'm back for a second try.Geax sealant was recommended at one point but seems hard to find locally.So it's Stans again for now - was contemplating some of the lessor used/cheaper options but got my arm twisted on the big S.Also trying some other tyre brands so we'll see how it goes.
Pure Savage Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 What Mavic have done is actually develop a wheel and tyre side by side to ensure seamless integration. If this works I might consider tubeless.Wish they would develop a tyre that does not attract punctures and is paper thin.
Thomo Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 What Mavic have done is actually develop a wheel and tyre side by side to ensure seamless integration. If this works I might consider tubeless.True for a couple of manufacturers.Roval/SpecializedGiantTubeless tyre numbers also expanding, albeit without wheel manufacturer input.Not too sure how much is going into developing suitable sealants though.?
Frail. "Will forever remain "Frail" Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 Only for racing!"TUFO" Not UFO.Pure racing dream.High rolling Puncture resistant Option to fit sealant High pressure, 12/15 BAR.
Kalahari Vegmot Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 Wish they would develop a tyre that does not attract punctures and is paper thin.Well that would be nice, or a drivetrain that produces negative watts...
bertusras Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 Well that would be nice, or a drivetrain that produces negative watts... Why would you want negative watts?
Kalahari Vegmot Posted July 20, 2017 Posted July 20, 2017 Why would you want negative watts?Isn't that obvious? Not to your FTP...
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