best home trainer for sailing

[Shebeen]

With the ETNZ team moving from traditional grinding pedestals to cyclors, this is going to be what everyone will be doing in future.

 

I see that CWC have got a sale on home trainers, but ETNZ have been using wattbikes. will a lower range product still work?

 

http://www.cwcycles.co.za/product/tacx-t2400-satori-smart

 

 

 

video here

[Popit]

Is sailing that strenuous that you need to use a home trainer ...??

[CAAD4]

Re runs of he riveting 2005 America's cup???

[Fat Boab]

Available at your local Toys 'R Us........

 

 

[Shebeen]

you okes think I'm joking?!!!

 

from 2012 olympic bronze

 

 

to powering a boat that goes 3 times the speed of wind

 

http://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2017/02/video-team-new-zealand-call-on-simon-van-velthooven/_jcr_content/par/brightcovevideo/image.img.1280.high.jpg/v0.jpg

 

 

 

[Fat Boab]

How does using pedal power to raise and lower sails etc, rather than drive a propeller, make the boat go 3 times the speed of the wind?

[eddy]

How does using pedal power to raise and lower sails etc, rather than drive a propeller, make the boat go 3 times the speed of the wind?

Sail powered boats have for centuries already been able to go faster that the speed of the wind.

 

The modern America's cup yatchs have almost rigid aerofoils as sails and ride above the water on hydrofoils.

 

To trim the sails requires immense force, in the past given by pulleys and hand cranked winches.

 

Using leg power rather than arm power can move a bigger sail into position faster.

[EmptyB]

Row your rubber tube in the pool?

[Fat Boab]

Sail powered boats have for centuries already been able to go faster that the speed of the wind.

 

The modern America's cup yatchs have almost rigid aerofoils as sails and ride above the water on hydrofoils.

 

To trim the sails requires immense force, in the past given by pulleys and hand cranked winches.

 

Using leg power rather than arm power can move a bigger sail into position faster.

 

Granted, but it's not really 'powering' the boat using pedals which gives the speed advantage, relative to wind speed, is it?

[dirtypot]

Granted, but it's not really 'powering' the boat using pedals which gives the speed advantage, relative to wind speed, is it?

 

No, not at all. The power comes from the wind.  But these guys are using their power to get the wing (sail) into the perfect spot for the wind and adjusting to the apparent wind as they're moving.  They're not driving the yacht forwards in any way at all.

[Paddaman]

Pedal power will remain restricted to America Cup yachts and the likes.  Sailing dinghies and smaller racing yachts like the L26 will remain arm and core muscle dependent.  So don't think you will get recruited to cycle your way to the America's Cup soon

[dirtypot]

These are not normal yachts.  Nothing about them is ordinary.  Everything has been designed to be as efficient and streamlined as possible and the NZ team have found that it's more efficient to cycle than to use hand cranks.

These are the F1 yachts of the sailing world.

 

[Fat Boab]

But presumably these F1-type yachts can't 'outrun' the wind yet? ie if the wind and sailing direction are co-linear, then the yacht can't sail at a speed faster than the wind speed?

[Shebeen]

But presumably these F1-type yachts can't 'outrun' the wind yet? ie if the wind and sailing direction are co-linear, then the yacht can't sail at a speed faster than the wind speed?

believe it or not, they can!

[eddy]

But presumably these F1-type yachts can't 'outrun' the wind yet? ie if the wind and sailing direction are co-linear, then the yacht can't sail at a speed faster than the wind speed?

They go much faster than the wind speed.

 

They go fastest when sailing at an angle to the wind, they can even sail into the wind.

[Fat Boab]

believe it or not, they can!

 

Co-linear? ie the direction of the wind and the boat are the same? No sailing at an angle to the wind.

 

If so, how so?