The Veganism Thread

[Jurgens Smit]

yeah tofu.

 

It’s all about how you prepare it. It totally sucks if prepared improperly.

How do you prepare it properly?

I had some while in China and was pretty meh about it.

 

I couldn't really form an opinion about it, it was a little chewy and slightly bland

[Eldron]

How do you prepare it properly?

I had some while in China and was pretty meh about it.

 

I couldn't really form an opinion about it, it was a little chewy and slightly bland

Tofu is just really a flavour absorber.

 

We chop it into cubes then marinade it in whatever flavour sauce we want and fry it to give it a well textured surface.

 

We don't use it as a stand alone serving - we only add it to salads and meals.

[Rocket-Boy]

I still havent had any tofu combination that I actually enjoyed.

Like Eldron says, it has very little flavour of its own and absorbs other flavours.

Maybe its just the texture that doesnt agree with me.

[Eldron]

I still havent had any tofu combination that I actually enjoyed.

Like Eldron says, it has very little flavour of its own and absorbs other flavours.

Maybe its just the texture that doesnt agree with me.

Try a few. There are some really sloppy/slimy ones - we only buy the firmer type.

 

Frying the surface also adds to the eating experience. A bit like a cruton - crunchy surface but with a soft tasty interior (if you marinade it right!).

[WrightJnr]

[The Ghost]

This arrived today, keen to get reading and get a little more info on finding a balance and some ideas.

[Grass Muncher]

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2021/01/27/Plant-based-diets-the-least-favoured-solution-to-climate-change-according-to-UN-poll

 

People care about climate change but they just don't care enough. Everyone for themselves I guess.

Its funny how a plantbaded diet makes one of the biggest contributions to reduce climate change but it's the least favoured solution.

[Rocket-Boy]

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2021/01/27/Plant-based-diets-the-least-favoured-solution-to-climate-change-according-to-UN-poll

 

People care about climate change but they just don't care enough. Everyone for themselves I guess.

Its funny how a plantbaded diet makes one of the biggest contributions to reduce climate change but it's the least favoured solution.

People want to live in bliss, they dont like the idea that they need to change their habits to stabilize the climate.

Its not different from being on a plant based diet really, most people will laugh us and tell us how great lamb tastes, but few would be able to watch that same lamb being slaughtered and cut up.

 

Really, its more difficult to actually eat meat if you are an animal lover and trying to do your bit for the climate. All it requires is thinking outside of the cultural norms and knowing that killing animals because you like meat is a bit of a dick move. 

[100Tours]

https://www.foodnavigator.com/Article/2021/01/27/Plant-based-diets-the-least-favoured-solution-to-climate-change-according-to-UN-poll

 

 

Well it's only the least favourite because it looks like they didn't include having less people on the planet as an option (making less people), Might be an easier mountain to climb than global veganism.

 

As a species we prefer solutions that don't require changes in behaviour.

[The Ghost]

I was reading about how much protein one needs and how that might look broken down into portions over the course of a day, and I don’t think I was eating that much protein all this time even when I was eating meat.

I’m a little shocked to be honest and I think I’m going to have to try and keep track of it for a while (which just seems like a massive pain in the ass).

[Eldron]

Well it's only the least favourite because it looks like they didn't include having less people on the planet as an option (making less people), Might be an easier mountain to climb than global veganism.

 

As a species we prefer solutions that don't require changes in behaviour.

Having less people on the planet requires quite a large behavioural change in a global scale.

 

All change is uncomfortable - eating less/no meat is a pretty darn easy one.

[Chris_]

I was reading about how much protein one needs and how that might look broken down into portions over the course of a day, and I don’t think I was eating that much protein all this time even when I was eating meat.

I’m a little shocked to be honest and I think I’m going to have to try and keep track of it for a while (which just seems like a massive pain in the ass).

(not really a reply, more anecdotal) I followed a bodybuilding type diet for probably 10 years. Everything I ate I saw macros and grams of protein. Later on after ditching animal it really was a breath of fresh air where I actively decided to stop thinking about protein recommendations and all those things. It's been a revelation.

 

I've always eaten 'clean' so there's no danger of going ballistic, but I'm now just eating and not analyzing and worrying.

 

You'll be surprised how well the body goes with just good food.

[100Tours]

Having less people on the planet requires quite a large behavioural change in a global scale.

 

All change is uncomfortable - eating less/no meat is a pretty darn easy one.

 

It's an interesting debate - the biggest socially acceptable driver in reducing the number of kids on the planet seems to be the education of girls. Do you think it is easier to make a difference to education or to change the way people eat (I honestly don't know, but I do struggle to believe in veganism changing the planet).

 

What you do in your household isn't going to make a difference either way.

[The Ghost]

(not really a reply, more anecdotal) I followed a bodybuilding type diet for probably 10 years. Everything I ate I saw macros and grams of protein. Later on after ditching animal it really was a breath of fresh air where I actively decided to stop thinking about protein recommendations and all those things. It's been a revelation.

 

I've always eaten 'clean' so there's no danger of going ballistic, but I'm now just eating and not analyzing and worrying.

 

You'll be surprised how well the body goes with just good food.

Too much stressing about food types, quantities etc etc can really curb the enjoyment thereof and make it a real pain.

I definitely won’t analyse things that much, life’s too short [emoji1]

[Eldron]

It's an interesting debate - the biggest socially acceptable driver in reducing the number of kids on the planet seems to be the education of girls. Do you think it is easier to make a difference to education or to change the way people eat (I honestly don't know, but I do struggle to believe in veganism changing the planet).

 

What you do in your household isn't going to make a difference either way.

Interesting for sure. Making changes to the education of girls in the countries with expanding populations is pretty tough. Hell SA can't get it right and it is in a much better situation than most of Africa.

 

1 household won't make a difference but 3 billion households each making small purchasing and lifestyle changes would be significant.

 

Also - it doesn't have to be one or the other. It can be both. What I can't understand is why people wouldn't want to change. It's patently obvious that we're consuming the planet - why not do our little bit?

[Jurgens Smit]

I've been reading through this thread to gain ideas of making non meat dishes more fun. Although I have no inclination of going full vegan/vegetarian.

 

So please don't take this the wrong way or as a troll post, but is vegetarianism/veganism as it is at present not harmful to the environment as well?
Take for example eating fruit or veg that is not indigenous to SA or in season here, generally that needs to get imported, aren't the transportation environmental costs just as bad as karan beef and his cattle farms?