Used Merida reacto 5000 or new Emonda sl5

[DieselnDust]

No way really

 

 

Not that big an issue.

[madbradd]

The Reacto with 10s Ultegra will be from about 2011-2013 if I remember correctly (Ultegra 6800 was launched in 2013 so would have been on the 2014 bikes). That makes it pretty old compared to the "new" Emonda.

 

I'd be more inclined to the Trek personally.

 

Check your sizing though, the Merida should be a L / XL - they don't size with numbers.

[ivr32]

Hello Hubbers. Looking at a used merida reacto and new emonda sl5. Both frames are 58cm. Reacto is cheaper and uletgra 10 speed. Emonda new 105 11 speed but more expensive

 

What would you suggest(i race alot also)?

Weight: 63

Height:191

Leg inseam:94

Arm length:63

You are XL 60cm, not 58cm

[Pure Savage]

These are not even comparable bikes?

 

I would go with the newer one, then slap some carbon wheels on that bad boy with the rest of your budget.

[Eldron]

The 58cm Emonda will be too small for you as others have said. Trek measure big (check their website for fit)

 

As the others also said - these are completely different bikes. The Reacto is much closer to the Madone than the Emonda.

 

What kind of riding do you prefer. Emonda is a lightweight climber and the Reacto is an aero bike...

[DieselnDust]

Maybe take some body dimensions and input into a bike fit tool to get idea of bike size range

[Pure Savage]

Go to the cycling shops and sit on a few bikes, Giant has different fit to Cannondale. No rush to get a bike, DC is months away!

[DieselnDust]

Go to the cycling shops and sit on a few bikes, Giant has different fit to Cannondale. No rush to get a bike, DC is months away!

Too young at 16 and I bet the current bike is getting to a point of being too small

[DieselnDust]

SO in terms of bike sizing, with an inseam of 93cm, your ideal saddle height from the centre of the bb will be in the range of 81-83cm depending on your flexibility and foot size.

Crank length can be added to this to determine total height and you can compensate for stakc height of the pedal and shoe.

 

This tends to talk to the view that a 60cm frame will be a best fit BUT compact frames aren't measured that way. A size 60 in traditional geo would have a top tube of 58cm which is inline with what i would expect you to fit onto.

Based on the the Emonda 58cm is 57.3cm top tube and the 60cm is 58.6cm.

 

so either size is likely to fit but with different saddle fore aft positioning and stem length with the 58 allowing a more slammed stem. You really need to sit on either size to determine which is The better fit.

 

WRT to the Emonda, there isn't much difference between the reach measurements of the 58cm and 60cm frames 391 vs 395. The seat tube length ability to accomodate our required saddle height without resorting to a MTB seat post is more a deciding fit factor at 55.3cm vs 57.3cm

 

 

a bit of the math: saddle height calculated - (seat tube length + 4cm) = seat post length

82 - (55.3+4) = 22.7cm 

 

so a 33cm saddle post length is needed. The trek has a 35cm seat post so this seat tube ength is the minimum that you should look for. Thte 58cm Emonda will be the bottom end of your size range.

 

Since the reach is not a factor the 58cm is workable

[BassoBoy]

Go to the cycling shops and sit on a few bikes, Giant has different fit to Cannondale. No rush to get a bike, DC is months away!

Thanks everyone. For the suggestions.

I'm going to THE PPA Junior Academy in Sept so I want to look "pro" because I currently run a 2014 steel bike which is too small for me and the slowest guy from the selection. Also I'm too young for DC so just DC training rides unfortunately.

[BassoBoy]

SO in terms of bike sizing, with an inseam of 93cm, your ideal saddle height from the centre of the bb will be in the range of 81-83cm depending on your flexibility and foot size.

Crank length can be added to this to determine total height and you can compensate for stakc height of the pedal and shoe.

 

This tends to talk to the view that a 60cm frame will be a best fit BUT compact frames aren't measured that way. A size 60 in traditional geo would have a top tube of 58cm which is inline with what i would expect you to fit onto.

Based on the the Emonda 58cm is 57.3cm top tube and the 60cm is 58.6cm.

 

so either size is likely to fit but with different saddle fore aft positioning and stem length with the 58 allowing a more slammed stem. You really need to sit on either size to determine which is The better fit.

 

WRT to the Emonda, there isn't much difference between the reach measurements of the 58cm and 60cm frames 391 vs 395. The seat tube length ability to accomodate our required saddle height without resorting to a MTB seat post is more a deciding fit factor at 55.3cm vs 57.3cm

Thank you very much???? Noted will do

[BassoBoy]

Too young at 16 and I bet the current bike is getting to a point of being too small

Very true. My current frame is 54cm, with mtb seatpost, 120mm stem

[DieselnDust]

Thanks everyone. For the suggestions.

I'm going to THE PPA Junior Academy in Sept so I want to look "pro" because I currently run a 2014 steel bike which is too small for me and the slowest guy from the selection. Also I'm too young for DC so just DC training rides unfortunately.

 

LOL nice sense of humour

 

Don't worry about the looks. I saw the list of kids invited and it looks like nice mix of young achievers across the spectrum. Focus on what is on offer from the program. The bike I'm sure will be sorted but in the meantime you have one. 

 

Yeha your 54cm is probably too small to accommodate much more fit corrections so time to get a more appropriately sized machine.

[Eldron]

SO in terms of bike sizing, with an inseam of 93cm, your ideal saddle height from the centre of the bb will be in the range of 81-83cm depending on your flexibility and foot size.

Crank length can be added to this to determine total height and you can compensate for stakc height of the pedal and shoe.

 

This tends to talk to the view that a 60cm frame will be a best fit BUT compact frames aren't measured that way. A size 60 in traditional geo would have a top tube of 58cm which is inline with what i would expect you to fit onto.

Based on the the Emonda 58cm is 57.3cm top tube and the 60cm is 58.6cm.

 

so either size is likely to fit but with different saddle fore aft positioning and stem length with the 58 allowing a more slammed stem. You really need to sit on either size to determine which is The better fit.

 

WRT to the Emonda, there isn't much difference between the reach measurements of the 58cm and 60cm frames 391 vs 395. The seat tube length ability to accomodate our required saddle height without resorting to a MTB seat post is more a deciding fit factor at 55.3cm vs 57.3cm

 

 

a bit of the math: saddle height calculated - (seat tube length + 4cm) = seat post length

82 - (55.3+4) = 22.7cm

 

so a 33cm saddle post length is needed. The trek has a 35cm seat post so this seat tube ength is the minimum that you should look for. Thte 58cm Emonda will be the bottom end of your size range.

 

Since the reach is not a factor the 58cm is workable

A word of warning - the 58cm Emonda has a max rail height of 78.5cm (with the long seat mast) which leaves only 3 or 4cm for the seat height and zero room for growth.

[Eldron]

LOL nice sense of humour

 

Don't worry about the looks. I saw the list of kids invited and it looks like nice mix of young achievers across the spectrum. Focus on what is on offer from the program. The bike I'm sure will be sorted but in the meantime you have one.

 

Yeha your 54cm is probably too small to accommodate much more fit corrections so time to get a more appropriately sized machine.

Ahh the good old pro look.

 

90% of my clients have their seat too high and their bars too low. Pros that churn out 300+ watts all day and include core strength and flexibility in their programme benefit from the "pro look".

 

A rigid 45 year old that does zero core strength will be faster and more comfortable looking a whole lot more "fun rider".

[Shebeen]

Thanks everyone. For the suggestions.

I'm going to THE PPA Junior Academy in Sept so I want to look "pro" because I currently run a 2014 steel bike which is too small for me and the slowest guy from the selection. Also I'm too young for DC so just DC training rides unfortunately.

 

As a massive douche once said "it's not about the bike". A 2014 steel road bike, is very avant garde - we even have a thread on that - https://community.bikehub.co.za/topic/131617-steel-back-in-the-peleton/page-1

 

If you really want to look pro, then get a nondescript bike that fits you and make it go faster than the latest Di2 equipped carbon beast that daddy needed to take a second mortgage to buy for his little champion.

 

 

but most of all, get a bike that suits/fits you. looks come 2nd.