droo Posted February 3, 2022 Share 4 minutes ago, eala said: The offset effects the SIZE of the trail area and the virtual angle to the ground and that effects the turning acuteness .The wheelbase may extend slightly but that is not the reason for offset . I know why offset affects trail and stability, this was not the point of my answer. You said trail doesn't affect wheelbase. It does. Stick to your original argument, or word it properly, rather than telling everyone else they're wrong. BaGearA and Grease_Monkey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket-Boy Posted February 3, 2022 Share 1 hour ago, droo said: I know why offset affects trail and stability, this was not the point of my answer. You said trail doesn't affect wheelbase. It does. Stick to your original argument, or word it properly, rather than telling everyone else they're wrong. Also, NEVER argue with Droo about anything suspension related, he will be right, its just how it is. No amount of reading on the internet can replace professional experience. Trashy and michaelbiker 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MORNE Posted February 3, 2022 Share 1 hour ago, Rocket-Boy said: Also, NEVER argue with Droo about anything suspension related, he will be right, its just how it is. No amount of reading on the internet can replace professional experience. I don't mind being that guy...😊 technically this is geometry related and has nothing to do with suspension other than the fact that some bicycles have a suspension fork in the front. Trail is an 'adjustable' setting on rigid bikes too via different offset forks...especially touring bikes that have racks and get loaded on the front. Different trail forks make it easier to handle riding fully loaded. 🙃🤗 Rocket-Boy and Trashy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droo Posted February 3, 2022 Share 1 hour ago, Rocket-Boy said: Also, NEVER argue with Droo about anything suspension related, he will be right, its just how it is. No amount of reading on the internet can replace professional experience. Argue away, an opinion is nothing if it can't be backed up. MORNE and LazyTrailRider 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
droo Posted February 3, 2022 Share 38 minutes ago, MORNE said: I don't mind being that guy...😊 technically this is geometry related and has nothing to do with suspension other than the fact that some bicycles have a suspension fork in the front. Trail is an 'adjustable' setting on rigid bikes too via different offset forks...especially touring bikes that have racks and get loaded on the front. Different trail forks make it easier to handle riding fully loaded. 🙃🤗 This is true. I know less about geo than I do about suspension, but it's still not nothing. (I do have 2 friends who are frame designers though, so at least I have someone to ask) Edited February 3, 2022 by droo Added stuff MORNE 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100Tours Posted February 4, 2022 Share On 2/3/2022 at 11:50 AM, eala said: Before 29 wheels all forks had the same offset Must have been a real a-ha moment when they decided to have different offsets for other wheel sizes too 😁 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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