candyfloss Posted January 24 Share I'm looking into buying a full suspension bike and really cannot make my mind up between the following three options: https://bike-addict.co.za/collections/dual-suspensions/products/titan-cypher-rs-dash-alloy-2023 https://bike-addict.co.za/collections/dual-suspensions/products/titan-cypher-sport-alloy-2023 (Would upgrade to the Scram NX) https://www.trekbikes.com/za/en_ZA/bikes/mountain-bikes/trail-mountain-bikes/fuel-ex/fuel-ex-5-gen-5/p/33073 I've been browsing the 2nd hand bikes for a while and it does seem the Titan's offer great value for money. Can anyone provide some guidance here, comparing the bike-addict descriptions I struggle to see the difference between the two titans except the race spec and groupset difference. Is something like the trek fuel really worth the extra? Just to add, I'm on the heavy end so not sure if the judy will be fine on the titan's? Edited January 24 by candyfloss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted January 24 Share 3 minutes ago, candyfloss said: I'm looking into buying a full suspension bike and really cannot make my mind up between the following three options: https://bike-addict.co.za/collections/dual-suspensions/products/titan-cypher-rs-dash-alloy-2023 https://bike-addict.co.za/collections/dual-suspensions/products/titan-cypher-sport-alloy-2023 (Would upgrade to the Scram NX) https://www.trekbikes.com/za/en_ZA/bikes/mountain-bikes/trail-mountain-bikes/fuel-ex/fuel-ex-5-gen-5/p/33073 I've been browsing the 2nd hand bikes for a while and it does seem the Titan's offer great value for money. Can anyone provide some guidance here, comparing the bike-addict descriptions I struggle to see the difference between the two titans except the race spec and groupset difference. Is something like the trek fuel really worth the extra? Having owned the EX5 myself .... please DONT buy it .... it is the worst bike Trek has ever built. SRAM NX ..... uhm .... let's hear what the rest of the Hub says on this. candyfloss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyfloss Posted January 24 Share 3 minutes ago, ChrisF said: Having owned the EX5 myself .... please DONT buy it .... it is the worst bike Trek has ever built. SRAM NX ..... uhm .... let's hear what the rest of the Hub says on this. Aware the NX isn't ideal, perhaps I can ask bike-addict to do the deore on instead, but their options are stock or the NX on their site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyfloss Posted January 24 Share 5 minutes ago, ChrisF said: Having owned the EX5 myself .... please DONT buy it .... it is the worst bike Trek has ever built. SRAM NX ..... uhm .... let's hear what the rest of the Hub says on this. Can you perhaps PM or expand a bit on the issues with the EX? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted January 24 Share 1 minute ago, candyfloss said: Can you perhaps PM or expand a bit on the issues with the EX? After 50km (jip, 3rd short ride) the bike creaked .... took it back to the bikeshop (120km return trip).... another 120km to collect the bike. Never got a straight answer as to what the cause was. Around 1 000km I had some funny sounds from the rear .... basic wash and lube and checking the bike did not show up the fault. Next ride was at Meerendal, by the end of the ride the sound from the rear was BAD !! At the time Knipe_Racing still had their shop at Meerendal, so I walked in and asked them to look at it. Rear bearing collapsed, totally broken in bits !! Trek wanted to sell us a new hub!!! The outer race stuck in the hub. Louis had to make a custom tool to extract it. I wanted to replace the quick release seat post clamp with an allen key unit ... nope, Trek uses their own size. Couple of little things like this .... Rather go for a bike with industry standard parts. And where parts are easily available and replaceable. Well, as much as possible .... candyfloss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffsVintageBikes Posted January 24 Share If that's your price range, maybe consider the Orbea H30 from CWC's, they had them on a special a little while back. I've been very happy with mine so far and I've had it just over a year now 🤙 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
440MTB Posted January 24 Share @candyfloss - My 2c to take into consideration: Think about the riding style & type of trails you want to ride or what interests you... I've been riding for 2 years, and I'm on my 5th bike now... I started with a hardtail XC style cheap bike to get back into it, then I got my first dual sus XC bike, then I upgraded to a carbon dual sus XC bike... I then started getting into doing jumps and wanted to start doing more "gnarly" stuff like all the cool okes do. 😛 So I ended up switching to a cheaper short travel trail bike (140mm front/120mm rear), and rode that bike for close to a year, progressing more, and eventually ended up with a 160mm/146mm Enduro/All mountain bike. Also start with a proper set of flat pedals & shoes, learn the basics & proper techniques, then switch to clipless if you feel like doing so. So TL;DR version: Think of the style of trails/riding you'd like to do, if you're interested in doing jumps and rock gardens, get the right bike from the beginning, something with a slacker head angle, more travel front and rear, etc... and in all fairness, a trail (even my Reign) climbs fine if you're not a KOM chasing XCO super athlete. 🤣 Most important thing to remember is to have fun! Happy biking! 😎 Edited January 24 by 440MTB Captain Fastbastard Mayhem and candyfloss 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyfloss Posted January 24 Share 4 minutes ago, BuffsVintageBikes said: If that's your price range, maybe consider the Orbea H30 from CWC's, they had them on a special a little while back. I've been very happy with mine so far and I've had it just over a year now 🤙 Thanks! Will have a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruben101 Posted January 24 Share 3 minutes ago, BuffsVintageBikes said: If that's your price range, maybe consider the Orbea H30 from CWC's, they had them on a special a little while back. I've been very happy with mine so far and I've had it just over a year now 🤙 This orbea is very good value👌 candyfloss 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffsVintageBikes Posted January 24 Share The lifetime guarantee on the frame was also attractive to me, I seem to make a habit of cracking mtb frames 🤙 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebob Posted January 24 Share 30 minutes ago, ChrisF said: After 50km (jip, 3rd short ride) the bike creaked .... took it back to the bikeshop (120km return trip).... another 120km to collect the bike. Never got a straight answer as to what the cause was. Around 1 000km I had some funny sounds from the rear .... basic wash and lube and checking the bike did not show up the fault. Next ride was at Meerendal, by the end of the ride the sound from the rear was BAD !! At the time Knipe_Racing still had their shop at Meerendal, so I walked in and asked them to look at it. Rear bearing collapsed, totally broken in bits !! Trek wanted to sell us a new hub!!! The outer race stuck in the hub. Louis had to make a custom tool to extract it. I wanted to replace the quick release seat post clamp with an allen key unit ... nope, Trek uses their own size. Couple of little things like this .... Rather go for a bike with industry standard parts. And where parts are easily available and replaceable. Well, as much as possible .... Sample of one. I've had several excellent Treks and great service from two of their dealers as well as a warranty claim that was smooth as silk. The Fuel EX is a smoking deal at the price. But as suggested earlier, buy the right bike for the type of riding you want to do. The Titans will be great for XC duty and can handle some trails, the Trek will be much happier hitting trails up to a few enduro lite lines but will be a bit lazier on the XC type stuff. 440MTB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shebeen Posted January 24 Share 36 minutes ago, ChrisF said: After 50km (jip, 3rd short ride) the bike creaked .... took it back to the bikeshop (120km return trip).... another 120km to collect the bike. Never got a straight answer as to what the cause was. why a 120km round trip to lbs?...was this a friday bike bought at special discount from a bike shop in the swartland? ChrisF, nonky, RustyHWR and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisF Posted January 24 Share 4 minutes ago, Shebeen said: why a 120km round trip to lbs?...was this a friday bike bought at special discount from a bike shop in the swartland? Nope .... thats only a 100km round trip for me .... 🤣 Trek Concept Store in Paarl .... (was at Best Bikes earlier that morning ...) @thebob certainly ... this is but a sample of 1. Also on their entry level full suss, which does mean some cost cutting ..... Trek DO have some very nice bikes, by my EX5 certainly was not one of their nice bikes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
candyfloss Posted January 24 Share 13 minutes ago, thebob said: Sample of one. I've had several excellent Treks and great service from two of their dealers as well as a warranty claim that was smooth as silk. The Fuel EX is a smoking deal at the price. But as suggested earlier, buy the right bike for the type of riding you want to do. The Titans will be great for XC duty and can handle some trails, the Trek will be much happier hitting trails up to a few enduro lite lines but will be a bit lazier on the XC type stuff. Thanks and @440MTB! Super valuable. 440MTB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MERGATROID Posted January 24 Share Hi Also in a similar predicament looking to either buy good second hand or new. Considering Giant Stance , which seems to be on par with Trek EX 5 in terms of price and specs. https://bike-addict.co.za/products/giant-stance-29er-2-2022?_pos=10&_sid=e4bad45e7&_ss=r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phillippe Coetzee Posted January 24 Share 1 hour ago, candyfloss said: I'm looking into buying a full suspension bike and really cannot make my mind up between the following three options: https://bike-addict.co.za/collections/dual-suspensions/products/titan-cypher-rs-dash-alloy-2023 https://bike-addict.co.za/collections/dual-suspensions/products/titan-cypher-sport-alloy-2023 (Would upgrade to the Scram NX) https://www.trekbikes.com/za/en_ZA/bikes/mountain-bikes/trail-mountain-bikes/fuel-ex/fuel-ex-5-gen-5/p/33073 I've been browsing the 2nd hand bikes for a while and it does seem the Titan's offer great value for money. Can anyone provide some guidance here, comparing the bike-addict descriptions I struggle to see the difference between the two titans except the race spec and groupset difference. Is something like the trek fuel really worth the extra? Just to add, I'm on the heavy end so not sure if the judy will be fine on the titan's? Hi I am currently cycling with a Titan Cypher RS Team and I am in love, amazing bikes. Dont know if you perhaps missed this one, its also in your price range. I think its an amazing deal. https://solomonscycles.co.za/products/titan-cypher-rs-dash-carbon-race-bike-dual-suspension-1-x-12-29-mountain-bike/?attribute_frame-size=Large&utm_source=Google Shopping&utm_campaign=Google Merch &utm_medium=cpc&utm_term=80813&gclid=CjwKCAiA5L2tBhBTEiwAdSxJX4X9xxZ4t2LtiaV9W-L1LpNntA4Q6vdYd7bOJRkvpiLKgV8rvWYMhhoC3KIQAvD_BwE ChrisF and candyfloss 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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