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Hi! 

So buying a MTB for the first time sucks.

With all the MTB information I've consumed over the past month I feel like I could enter some kind of All-MTB version of Who Wants to be a Millionaire."  And I'd win.... like that guy who used his Phone-a-Friend just so he could tell his dad he knew the answer for the $1,000,000 question. I digress...

I feel so overwhelmed. I still have no idea what kind of MTB to get. I know I'm looking for a trail bike, not a XC. Something with mid-to-long travel up front.

But... do I need a dual-suspension or is a good hardtail more than capable? I'm 40 years young in January - I'm not in bad shape, but not in great shape (90kg but crossfitting okay!). Would a hardtail destroy my back and my ankles? I hear full sus is more comfortable and gives you confidence. I hear HT is more fun but punishing. Long term... is there a massive difference?  

I know what you gonna ask...

I live 5 min from Wolwespruit, and 10 min from Grootfontein in PTA. So I'll be riding that. All that. Also... I'm probably going to ride harder and faster than I should, and probably take risks (Wired that way, can't help it. It's not overconfidence, it's being immature.)

Now, I'm not trying to set up a full squish (check the terminology guys!) vs HT discussion, but I would like to get expert advice from some fine, handsome people with experience in our local environment.

Been looking at something like the Merida Big Trail 500 or Titan Cerberus Dash for hardtails. And Merida One-Twenty 300 or Titan Skyrim Sport/Dash for the dual-sus (depending on what I can find on sale when the time comes). 

Please help... before I do something stupid with my Christmas bonus. 

Cheers! 

 

 

 

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When I started out, coming from motorbikes, I believed there was only one way to go and that was duel sus. 
I’ll be honest, my learning curve would have been a hell of a lot shorter if I had gone with a better spec’d HT for the same money. 
I am now on a HT and ride all the gnarly trails I can handle and honestly never miss the rear suspension. Unless you are doing big drop offs and big jumps I’d say go hard tail 29er, you won’t be sorry.

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If you’re looking for a trail bike over XC, I’m assuming the plan is to do more knarlier trails. If that’s the case then you might as well just go full sus. 

 

If you’re not planning on doing rough stuff, then a XC bike might suit you better. And then I’d perhaps be more inclined to agree with a hardtail. 

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This may conflict what many will say. Go for the full suspension, if you can afford it and you seem to be more inclined to the playful side of riding then I wouldn’t give it a second thought. 
I used to live 5 minutes away from wolve as well, in my opinion xc bike is king there. I have ridden there on multiple hardtails, dual sus xc bikes and long travel trail/enduro bikes. I have found that dual sus xc bikes are simply more fun, the GP trails don’t need anything more. 

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HT teaches you skill

Dual Sus teaches you bad habits 

learn the skill first then progress to a dual 

When we started racing many moons ago it was 26" HT only , over the years you can spot the riders who have done it properly and those who just drop massive amo on a bike they cant ride.

 

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I can't speak to the nature of your riding so can't give informed advice. I would say though that if the trails lean towards being better suited to XC bikes then a HT will suffice.

Full suspension bikes cost more to maintain, more often. Suspension services are NOT cheap.

But then, if you ride like I do, which is what it sounds like (throwing caution to the wind, crash first and ask questions later) then a full-sus will be better. If you ride HT and venture to more technical trails, then the full-sus will be your friend as well. 

It all really boils down to what you want to do on the bike, and start from there. Either way will work. Both have pro's and con's.

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58 minutes ago, Scott roy said:

I used to live 5 minutes away from wolve as well, in my opinion xc bike is king there. I have ridden there on multiple hardtails, dual sus xc bikes and long travel trail/enduro bikes. I have found that dual sus xc bikes are simply more fun, the GP trails don’t need anything more.

This is so, so helpful. Thank you. The fact that you have ridden all of these bikes in the local area, and your advice comes down to just what you personally found more fun, and not some major technical/physical distinction between the bikes says a lot to me.... basically, I'm overthinking this. Seriously, thanks!

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37 minutes ago, dave303e said:

I would rather go with a HT with better wheels and suspension that a dual suspension

 

This.

If you've got the cash, go DS. But don't spec down, especially wheels and suspension, to make a FS fit your budget.

Also regarding maintenance - a FS will be around R 7k annually to maintain if you're riding twice a week (excluding consumables like tyres, sealant and any crash damage). HT is less than half that since there are fewer moving parts and one less squishy bit.

Titans - spring for the Expert. The forks on the other variants will make you wish you'd gone for the Fox.
 

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My 2c, for what it's worth. You can lock out the rear suspension on the soft tail, which I do a lot when riding road or good trails. My bike, Scott Spark, even has a remote lockout on the handlebars for that. 

 

I mostly ride dirt road etc for training (think XC), but last weekend my son and I went to Cascades in PMB and did some awesome enduro style riding. Unlocked the suspension and I was A for away.

 

Best of both worlds with a bit of a weight penalty for the extra shock. If you shop around you can still get some great deals on a full suspension, especially 2nd hand if you done need new.

Full suspension is nice to have when you decide to point it to the rough stuff.

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3 minutes ago, mynameisluka said:

This is so, so helpful. Thank you. The fact that you have ridden all of these bikes in the local area, and your advice comes down to just what you personally found more fun, and not some major technical/physical distinction between the bikes says a lot to me.... basically, I'm overthinking this. Seriously, thanks!

I know the feeling of overthinking haha

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53 minutes ago, Iron said:

HT teaches you skill

Dual Sus teaches you bad habits 

learn the skill first then progress to a dual 

When we started racing many moons ago it was 26" HT only , over the years you can spot the riders who have done it properly and those who just drop massive amo on a bike they cant ride.

 

Yeah, I've come across this advice too. And I've heard a lot about being overbiked, which I figure means not having enough skill to get the most out of a shmancy bike. 

Still, we learn things differently at 40, than we do at 20. Recovery times take longer, and I understand that a dual-sus is more forgiving. 

So that's just another thing that has me going back and forth. Again, perhaps I'm overthinking.

Hear you loud and clear though! Thanks

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