Ullrich says BYE

[bikemonster]

CSC withdrew Basso from the TdF immediately but he remained on the team roster.

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CSC NEVER fired Basso, he was suspended after the scandal broke but NEVER fired - eventually leaving with mutual agreement.

 

I believe CSC is a great team ,but they protected Basso unduly, T-MOBILE to their great credit took a stance, gave Jan an ultimatum and when he declined they fired him. 

[Evan Andreou]

Auf Wiedersehn Herr Kaiser

 

Whatever you say, Jan gave us some of the most memorable TDF moments ever, his epic struggles to get one over Lance is what first drew me to cycling. I don't care whether he is guilty or not (a real pity that proof will probably never be forthcoming now); I just want to say so long and thanks for all the fish

[nellie]

I miss the big guy already!

 

I've always been a LA fan, so used to scream for the USPS/Discovery team and not T-Mobile, but Jan was a great guy, an excellent athlete and just one of those people who made watching the races exciting.

 

Damn, i really hoped that he'd get into pro cycling again...another less exciting TDF coming up.

[WorcesterWheelers]

Lets not start this again' date=' but yes, we need a hero.[/quote']

 

Where have all the good men gone
And where are all the gods?
Where's the street-wise Hercules
To fight the rising odds?
Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed?
Late at night I toss and turn and dream
of what I need

[Chorus]

I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the end of the night
He's gotta be strong
And he's gotta be fast
And he's gotta be fresh from the fight
I need a hero
I'm holding out for a hero 'til the morning light
He's gotta be sure
And it's gotta be soon
And he's gotta be larger than life

 

(Thanks to Bonnie Tyler)

 

[IanC]

Well then you might see LA make a come back for Disco this year with all the big names out..

[Christie]

 

Where have all the good men gone
And where are all the gods?
Where's the street-wise Hercules
To fight the rising odds?
Isn't there a white knight upon a fiery steed?
Late at night I toss and turn and dream
of what I need

 

 

 

WW, that was funny. But a dope free hero please. I think the good men will get dropped quickly.

Some interesting stats about the efffect of modern medicine on cycling:

Times up Alpe D'Huez:

1986 41:50 Lucho Herrera

1989 42:15 Perico Delgado

1991 40:25 Gianni Bugno

1994 37min? Pantani

2004 37:36 Amstrong

2006 38:36 Landis & Kloden

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 I don't care whether he is guilty or not (a real pity that proof will probably never be forthcoming now

 

................there is still a good chance the public will know the whole story wolverine - unlike some other cases of doping cyclists which I believe are covered up, convoluted and hiden under mounds of paperwork by highly paid solicitors, this case has been referred to the criminal court in Spain where a trial will begin in June - so if any new evidence arises it will certainly be made public. 

 

 

[nellie]

Nice one WW!!!  (ooh, i love that song!)

[Windbreaker]

 

 

dark day for cycling' date=' No Pantani, No Ullrich.......where have all the good men gone ?

 

 

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Discovery

 

[TNT1]

 

 

dark day for cycling' date=' No Pantani...

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But you can find him right here...https://www.bikehub.co.za/member_profile.asp?PF=1038