Older Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Beware, I did the Ghetto Tubeless on my WTB Prowler non UST tires last August. Both of them deteriorated and failed.
Weight Weenie Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Thats crappy man, hopefully they didnt fail while riding? Try some Tubeless ready tyres if you dont like UST ones, I love mine.
dirtrider Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Some tyres does not like sealants . Another tyre to stay away from is the Kenda Karma (non-Tubeless) . But the Larsen range seems to handle it very well .
Brighter-Lights Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Kenda Karma DTC sits very tightly on the rim and works great with diy tubeless... at 450g it's light and fast... It punctures easily but I've never had a problem with mine. My fav front tyre is Spez Fast Trak dual compound... real 2.0 and 460g My fav back tyre is small block 8 1.9 DTC - 420g and Python Air light 2.0 - 500g... rarely have problems with these and I plugged the sidewall on the Python a while ago and it's still fine... What sealant did you use?
dirtrider Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 The Karmas inside layer seperates from the outside . Air gets between these two layers and makes bubbles . This was with Stans .
davetapson Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 There seems to be a problem with latex based sealants causing tyres to delaminate. So use a water based sealant instead. Bought a Maxxis Monorail the other day, and it had a sticker on the packaging to the effect of they will not accept warranty claims for tyres that have been used with a latex based sealant. This was for a UST tyre. Maybe the solvent that keeps the latex in a liquid form also liquifies bits of the tyre.
TNOSE_E Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Also use standard Kenda Karma's with Joe's. Have not had a problem (7 Months)
TNOSE_E Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Beware' date=' I did the Ghetto Tubeless on my WTB Prowler non UST tires last August. Both of them deteriorated and failed. [/quote'] What sealant are you using?
Brighter-Lights Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 I've never had a tyre delaminate due to any kind of sealant, stans, midas slime like stuff, latex only, latex with water... never had delamination on probably 15 + tyres in 3.5 years....
Bos Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Oh F*K I have Just put on WTB Wolverenes- also running them with stans conversion- Its the "Protection " version.. but thats not going to change anything.. If the rubber dont like it.. Then It dont like it. WHAT SHOULD I TRY GUYS?? someone mentioned some other sealent on a thread before....What was it?? It was made by a tire brand...??
Gert Janse v Rensburg Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Joe's super sealant has an amonia free sealant out now....... think its the amonia that causes the tire faliures..... but dont quoye me on it... its just a guess.......
Bos Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Joe's super sealant has an amonia free sealant out now....... think its the amonia that causes the tire faliures..... but dont quoye me on it... its just a guess....... Really, Is it avalable locally? Im 99% sure its the amonia- I meen It is a chemical-and potent to add.. I think its a good guess mtbking I need to get this ASAP before I wreak my tires!!
brussel Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 I have been using OK sealant - BOS1000 impossible to get in Western Cape yet - but it is superb. Raced last week in breede river have over 30 thorns in each tyre - not a worry! no ammonia and it does not dry out like stans does. Not sure how well it will work for conversions though? as it is does not dry in the same way that stans does
Bos Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 I have been using OK sealant - BOS1000 impossible to get in Western Cape yet - but it is superb. Raced last week in breede river have over 30 thorns in each tyre - not a worry!no ammonia and it does not dry out like stans does. Not sure how well it will work for conversions though? as it is does not dry in the same way that stans does OK sealent?? Is thats what its called?? Where did you get yours Bruss? sh*t Im nipping now as Like I just said I spent 900bucks got them from CRC and they could be busy desolving... I need to get some and try it asap..
Gert Janse v Rensburg Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 Joe's super sealant has an amonia free sealant out now....... think its the amonia that causes the tire faliures..... but dont quoye me on it... its just a guess....... Really' date=' Is it avalable locally? Im 99% sure its the amonia- I meen It is a chemical-and potent to add.. I think its a good guess mtbking I need to get this ASAP before I wreak my tires!![/quote'] yes its available in SA... its the blue lid one...... normal one is red..... I know Bruce reyneke cycles has it in Pretoria......
kennyg Posted April 23, 2009 Posted April 23, 2009 I been running Karma 1.9 Tubeless for a years, no problems, mixture of Stans and Joes in them. I have also used the smallblock 8 tubeless ready tyre for a year with no issues. Maxxis Mimo - non ust - problems, for also more than a year. Apparently in the past the Stans stuff, had ammonia in. The last bottle I bought had an ammonia free sticker on it...in Vancouver
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