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Hey guys,

 

Im just wondering, I have a specialized s-works frame, the E5 alu one.

 

Im wanting to build it up now but struggling with the group. I dont want to go below 105 but is ultegra and Dura ace really worth it and whats the difference other than weight?

 

I have heard that 105 is harder wearing than ultegra and dura.

 

 

 

Also is it worth buying the bits separately and then building once im done or should I just look out for a decent second hand full group?

 

 

 

I normally ride mtb but I want to do a couple of road races and its sucky doing the various triathlons that I do on a mtb with slicks :(

 

 

 

So any advice that you can give me will help!

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105 is good and weight is about 460g more than Dura ace.New Ultegra and Dura ace look nice though and will tricle down to 105.

You will feel a difference in shifting  but that's about it.
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Also is it worth buying the bits separately and then building once im done or should I just look out for a decent second hand full group?

If you're buying new, you'll save around 10-15% by buying the whole groupset at once.

If you're buying second hand, it's less of an issue since you don't always have the option to buy a complete group, so then you need to get it part by part.

 

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You won't feel much difference in the components of 105, ultegra and dura ace. The Shifters do make a difference though, if you can get a nice set of dura ace shifters second hand, you won't regret it. The rest isn't worth the price difference

Posted

Look for a second hand Dura Ace or Campag Record/Chorus group. There are loads of these around (because Campag and Shimano released new versions this year), you will come to appreciate the difference and the stuff lasts forever.

Posted

Yep, shifters make all the difference. Would also suggest a better quality chainset. They are not only lighter but also more rigid, so you get more efficient shifting and power transfer. Ultegra SL is excellent value for money!!!

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I went from Ultegra to 105 and I could not feel any difference at all. There is a weight difference, but it is only a few hundred grams. I do not believe that the price premium you pay between the 2 is worth it.

 

I'm pretty sure the same would hold true between Ultegra and Dura Ace.
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Try Send CRC sales a e-mail and ask about groupos. Ive had long conversations about parts with some of the guys there, and though they seem like a "cyber megastore" on th eone side there are some very kind normal riders working for them.

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You can also look at Totalcycling.com. They do not offer free shipping like CRC, but on their road stuff they generally work out a lot cheaper than CRC, even with shipping included.

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Thanks for the input guys. Im thinking about just waiting until the budget is there and getting a complete group rather than buying bits and pieces over time.

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