Using 32GI with GU?

[wapad]

  On 8/31/2010 at 12:25 PM, MDW said:

hi guys Mark from 32Gi here I will write an explanation of how the product works the low GI and high GI aspect as well as possible reasons for bad days will respond later I want to make sure I cover all your issues and provide the proper insight till later all the best Mark

 

 

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[VeloRacer]

Yesterday at the De Grendel ride, I stopped at the water table and grabbed a cup and gulped it down only to realise afterwards it was Coke. Riding on 32gi I knew this was a no no. Well 5kms later both legs cramped up big time.

[Wobbles]

  On 10/4/2010 at 9:23 AM, silverboy said:

Yesterday at the De Grendel ride, I stopped at the water table and grabbed a cup and gulped it down only to realise afterwards it was Coke. Riding on 32gi I knew this was a no no. Well 5kms later both legs cramped up big time.

 

That does not make sense as if you start using coke or GU or whatever high GI then you just keep using it and you will get a boost. I think the cramp was all in your mind

 

I tried 32 on a 3 hour ride yesterday and took it like MDW prescribed with a GU in the last hour - it worked very well indeed!!

[PeterM]

Wow – this has been a most informative read. During the last 12 month I have started using some aspects of low GI, such as oats, nearly no sugar, etc, etc.

 

Mark - A quick question – about 6 month ago I started using dates in my food. A few slices with my oats in the morning and during a race I take a few bites from a small bock of dates (now i hardly ever use gels). It seems to work well for me. How do dates fit into the low GI nutrition? Any advice?

[MDW]

Hi Peter, dates are high GI, probably around just over 100. You would need to find what works for you, basically eating on them own is not great, but during exercise is not bad, but I would not eat them too early on and spike yourself too early on in a training or racing session. By combining the dates with oats assuming its not instant you are brining down the glycemic load significantly and by doing so lowering the insulin response to that particular meal in the same token combining it with a drink like 32Gi, would bring down the glycemic load as well and probably give you a nice level at which to perform, but that would be something you need to play with to see how it works for you.

 

all the best

M

[Boris]

  On 9/1/2010 at 2:20 AM, Luke. said:

Same as you Jaco, Jungle Oats, usually with a bit of IGF-1 protein mixed in. Then I have a few sips of 32 GI on the way to the event.

 

Luke you should be eating the Muesli that you get from Bircher foods SA ! Works like a charm for me

[Lucky Luke.]

  On 10/7/2010 at 10:59 AM, Boris said:

Luke you should be eating the Muesli that you get from Bircher foods SA ! Works like a charm for me

 

Actually I am a big muesli fan Boris. The only food that ranks higher on my wanted list is a good muffin. Would that be muesli made to the original Swiss Bircher recipe, and if so, where would I get hold of this stuff?

 

I am really struggling with my muffin problem at the moment. Eating a Kauai one right now, number 2 for today.

[Boris]

  On 10/7/2010 at 11:45 AM, Luke. said:

Actually I am a big muesli fan Boris. The only food that ranks higher on my wanted list is a good muffin. Would that be muesli made to the original Swiss Bircher recipe, and if so, where would I get hold of this stuff?

 

I am really struggling with my muffin problem at the moment. Eating a Kauai one right now, number 2 for today.

 

Cool i can help you with your muffin fetish ! yes it is the original Swiss Bircher recipe , she has made Bircher muffins for me lately as a once off but i can organize some for you. Maybe the Ghostman can sell them with his Pronto coffee`s ?

[Lucky Luke.]

Boris, I hear the muesli comes in crunchy and non-crunchy format. Do you have both available? How much are the bags going for? I am keen to diversify my pre-32GI breakfast options.

[MDW]

Join us on Saturday 9th October at Tony Impey Cycles in Bedfordview or Johnson Cycle Works in Edenvale for a 32Gi Energy tasting session. Pop in visit us, chat to us would be great to meet some of you,

 

all the best

M

[MDW]

A big congratulations to Cashandra Slingerland who won the MTN Amashova Durban Cycling Classic today, proudly fuelled by 32Gi :-)

[Johan Bornman]

This is like a night of heavy drinking and eating, and then the next day asking if your headache is due to something that you ate.

[Wobbles]

The guys are right. It took some time for my body to adjust but I can now ride 3 hours with just 32 and water. Save a fortune with GU'2!!

[MDW]

Just wanted to show you all something which is a realistic demonstration of how 32Gi actually performs. I went riding in the South this weekend, 130km, 4 x 10minute intervals 5 minute recover to start, then nice comfortable pace and then 4 x 10minute intervals with 5 minute recover to finish. Meaning I had to have the legs for the last hour and that was truly putting myself into the red zone. Especially with the last hour in a head on wind and the last interval finishing up butchers hill. I went out with two training partners so you can chat to them to verify. But anyway the link to my route profile etc is attached. Saddle time was 4.5hours.

 

My Route

 

Nutrition was as follows:

Pre-Training: 2 x slices of low GI seed loaf with apricot jam (no sugar added)

1/2 serving of 32Gi in 200ml's of water

 

During the ride:

2 x 750ml bottles with 1 serving (50grams) of 32Gi in each

Took on some additional water an hour before the finish but no additional energy drink.

 

That was it, I finished very strong up butchers, no fatigue no lack of energy, yes my legs were tired but if not then I would worry lol. Not to say that additional calories cannot be taken in, but the point is that it was not needed.

Recovery Meal

Immediately a soya isolate 90% to 10% MD

Then a breakfast

Rolled oats, low fat yoghurt, honey, sliced fruit

Strong filtered coffee no milk no sugar.

 

Ate normally through the day no excessive calories at all.

[StokedAboutSpokes]

Hi all

 

Very intersting thread!

 

Question: I'm riding compeditively in the XCO and XC nationals in the junior men catagory. I've read a lot in this thread about how 32GI promotes fat storage tapping as part of the energy source. I cannot afford to loose weight as I struggle putting on weight (65kg, 182cm Tall) so would I still benefit from the product with out loosing wieght?

[MDW]

  On 10/31/2010 at 7:43 PM, carbon crunchy said:

Hi all

 

Very intersting thread!

 

Question: I'm riding compeditively in the XCO and XC nationals in the junior men catagory. I've read a lot in this thread about how 32GI promotes fat storage tapping as part of the energy source. I cannot afford to loose weight as I struggle putting on weight (65kg, 182cm Tall) so would I still benefit from the product with out loosing wieght?

 

Carbon crunch it depends what weight you are talking about. Percentage fat lost is not going to affect your performance as long as its within the healthy range, but 32Gi wont cause a loss of muscle mass at all. Weight is not the important factor here its about power to mass weight ratio and as long as your muscles are not breaking down you will be fine, 32Gi does not cause this at all, it purely deals with your sugar levels and allows for stabilization. As mentioned to others you can take in additional calories with 32Gi, it will just lower the GI and taper you off nicely. But if you want to spare the glycogen as much as possible, stay away from the sugar until its really needed. Your focus around your weight should be around your daily nutrition, and pre and post training nutrition, thats the key.