Guest Big H Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 Ek gaan volgendecweek kom kyk..... Seer toon of te not. Hoe verander die masjien die draad van dikker na dunner speke of bly dit 56 tpi. Elektries of handle?
Johan Bornman Posted February 19, 2011 Author Posted February 19, 2011 There's a video of the Morizumi in action here: http://wheelfanatyk.blogspot.com/2009/04/ric-demonstrates-morizumi.html
Johan Bornman Posted February 19, 2011 Author Posted February 19, 2011 Ek gaan volgendecweek kom kyk..... Seer toon of te not. Hoe verander die masjien die draad van dikker na dunner speke of bly dit 56 tpi. Elektries of handle? Dit bly altyd 56 TPI. Net die gauge verander. Daar is 'n gadget wat die twee plat "dies" nader of verder van mekaar bring of die dunner of dikker speke te akkommodeer.
kosmonooit Posted February 19, 2011 Posted February 19, 2011 The threads are rolled in and not cut (with a die) right?
levett Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 I used this machine at Johan's this weekend, in building my wheels (hope Hubs and Crest Rims) and it is, indeed, a fantastic piece of kit - exquisite in its manufacture!
AndreZA Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 I also saw this thing in action. Amazing piece of engineering.
Moolz Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 so this machine makes spokes...whats the advantage of using custom spokes instead of just buying off the shelf spokes? not many MTBs with chrome spokes eh!
Johan Bornman Posted March 30, 2011 Author Posted March 30, 2011 so this machine makes spokes...whats the advantage of using custom spokes instead of just buying off the shelf spokes? not many MTBs with chrome spokes eh! It is not a matter of custom spokes at all. A wheelbuilder's challenge is to keep zillions of lengths in two colours, in four styles in stock. Do the math/ Range from 248mm to 301mm in 1mm increments. Times two for black and silver, times five for double butted, straight gauge, Revolution/Laser, bladed ewtc etc etc. It isusually a case of a customer wanting a wheel repair done because one spoke broke. Murphy says that spoke will not be in your arsenal and, you'll have to buy 100 of them from the distributor. The other 99 will never be sold, so there you sit. With this machine you can buy one pack of spokes of a certain length and manufacture the various lengths from it that you require for a single set of wheels. Most wheelsets require three different lenghts and now and then you come across a set that only require two different lengths. It is a major convenience, saves on stockholding and, saves many wheels that are otherwise history. A case in point is Campagnolo Neutron wheels. The agent doesn't bring those spokes in anymore and when you do get them, they come in mini-kits comprising three spokes for over R400 IIRC. With this machine it is a matter of cutting and threading a longer spoke to the length required at a fraction, and I mean fraction, of the cost of the OEM spoke. Chrome spokes? They're no longer used for good reason. Chromed steel doesn't work well in cyclical stresses like bicycle wheels. They also rust, since chrome is porous. However, they do have a role to play in Kerin and 8-day races in Europe. Under spotlights they make your bike look like a Chatsworth Corsa unde the roadhouse spotlights.
RodTi Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 so this machine makes spokes...whats the advantage of using custom spokes instead of just buying off the shelf spokes?not many MTBs with chrome spokes eh! It is not a matter of custom spokes at all. A wheelbuilder's challenge is to keep zillions of lengths in two colours, in four styles in stock. Do the math/ Range from 248mm to 301mm in 1mm increments. Times two for black and silver, times five for double butted, straight gauge, Revolution/Laser, bladed ewtc etc etc.It isusually a case of a customer wanting a wheel repair done because one spoke broke. Murphy says that spoke will not be in your arsenal and, you'll have to buy 100 of them from the distributor. The other 99 will never be sold, so there you sit.With this machine you can buy one pack of spokes of a certain length and manufacture the various lengths from it that you require for a single set of wheels. Most wheelsets require three different lenghts and now and then you come across a set that only require two different lengths.It is a major convenience, saves on stockholding and, saves many wheels that are otherwise history. A case in point is Campagnolo Neutron wheels. The agent doesn't bring those spokes in anymore and when you do get them, they come in mini-kits comprising three spokes for over R400 IIRC. With this machine it is a matter of cutting and threading a longer spoke to the length required at a fraction, and I mean fraction, of the cost of the OEM spoke.Chrome spokes? They're no longer used for good reason. Chromed steel doesn't work well in cyclical stresses like bicycle wheels. They also rust, since chrome is porous. However, they do have a role to play in Kerin and 8-day races in Europe. Under spotlights they make your bike look like a Chatsworth Corsa unde the roadhouse spotlights. Consider yourself told...
Johan Bornman Posted March 30, 2011 Author Posted March 30, 2011 Can it make XT/XTR spokes? Why would you want to do that? What's wrong with paying R80 a spoke? Yes, in theory it could, but it would be difficult to install the spoke since those spokes have a flat section behind the nipple that lets you hold the spoke and prevent it from turning. If I do it, the spoke would be round and impossible to hold. The machine is for standard spokes and things like Mavic and Campag Scirocco spokes are proprietary. Pays your money and gets those spokes from the distributor.
Mackie Posted March 30, 2011 Posted March 30, 2011 It is not a matter of custom spokes at all. A wheelbuilder's challenge is to keep zillions of lengths in two colours, in four styles in stock. Do the math/ Range from 248mm to 301mm in 1mm increments. Times two for black and silver, times five for double butted, straight gauge, Revolution/Laser, bladed ewtc etc etc. It isusually a case of a customer wanting a wheel repair done because one spoke broke. Murphy says that spoke will not be in your arsenal and, you'll have to buy 100 of them from the distributor. The other 99 will never be sold, so there you sit. With this machine you can buy one pack of spokes of a certain length and manufacture the various lengths from it that you require for a single set of wheels. Most wheelsets require three different lenghts and now and then you come across a set that only require two different lengths. It is a major convenience, saves on stockholding and, saves many wheels that are otherwise history. A case in point is Campagnolo Neutron wheels. The agent doesn't bring those spokes in anymore and when you do get them, they come in mini-kits comprising three spokes for over R400 IIRC. With this machine it is a matter of cutting and threading a longer spoke to the length required at a fraction, and I mean fraction, of the cost of the OEM spoke. Chrome spokes? They're no longer used for good reason. Chromed steel doesn't work well in cyclical stresses like bicycle wheels. They also rust, since chrome is porous. However, they do have a role to play in Kerin and 8-day races in Europe. Under spotlights they make your bike look like a Chatsworth Corsa unde the roadhouse spotlights. A classic JB quote, made me laugh out load!
Swift01 Posted March 31, 2011 Posted March 31, 2011 Awesome, I am sure I will be around one day and I can see how it works. I'll even bring some old spokes for you to munch up
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