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I didn't say that at all. Please re-read my post carefully. I SAID: Riders going downhill on a singletrack must yield for those riding up. Single direction routes like downhills (dedicated to that) are not meant to be ridden up. Please rather read posts before you assume things. You're not the only one who has ridden bikes for a very long time.

I didn't make the rules, but if people don't follow one set of rules then there's more problems than good. It's always been that way, butIf you are reasonable you'll see most people give way to each other. I don't think any of the singletracks are as technical as the DH runs. I'm trying to think of one but for the life of me I can't. Care to say which you think are?

I'm more of a Jameson man myself

This trail is classed as singletrack, so riders are allowed to ride up it as well, and you coming down will need to yield for them. This means moving off the path. It's tricky on sections of this trail, so I see your point there.

See what you did there? Descenders yield for ascenders. Don't try to confuse things.

You can ride up the singletracks any time you like except that riders coming down have to give way to ascenders. This is standard and accepted worldwide.

err, I think your 'poll' is missing some options. What about: ride down the downhills, + up and down the singletracks? Unless you're here to stir there should be no debate as to riding up the downhills.

OH YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING ME!!!! "Security on the mountain has been prioritised by Western Cape authorities and armed patrols are being introduced." When will they stop talking and start DOING???? I am getting so sick and tired of this. Seriously, what can be done?

Guys, reading all these awesome posts with ideas and opinions. THIS is what forums are about. Nice one.

I've had a little too much red wine, so I'll need to think properly in the morning...but why do you think a reward system wont work? It makes sense, think about it. Works for VidaE. It will get people involved. The more hands, the lighter the work. Umm, and I'm not talking about the 600m of DH. The whole parks needs regular work. Perhaps if a decent system is worked out, we'll be able to start looking at some new lines? I've got several mapped on my GPS ready for cutting. cheers boys, hic

I had a thought as well, what about a reward system for trailbuilders? What would the possibility be of having a card that can be stamped for trailbuilding days where each session helped out, can be turned into a free ride day, or 'x' amount of build days can be turned into a Wildcard. This will get guys involved and it won't have this charity feeling to it. Just a thought.

Well said. This isn't Whistler, although one thing I wouldn't complain to have is a ski-lift to the top. @Mach7-7, who better to build a trail for riding, than a passionate rider. I also don't think you realise the amount of erosion caused by rider traffic. The trees don't play a role in protecting that. Someone said it so brilliantly: Use less brakes, pedal harder, be braver. THIS will curb erosion in a big way. Let's not make this all about what the SANparks do with the entry fee. See the entry fee as an access pass to something cool when you ride in there on your R25k bike. It keeps the riff raff out If you don't like paying it, don't go. You can ride for free on Table mountain's foothills. If you get a Wildcard and you ride a lot, it works out to almost nothing. And the clever person who was upset about being stopped at the gate and asked for a Wildcard, umm, what makes you so special? Don't try and mess up what everyone else is doing. Agreed, toe the line or you'll make a lot of passionate riders really upset. It won't be good for you mate. What's with this flu? I've had it twice now. I'm a wreck. My training is back to square one.

no, I don't get frustrated. I have a Wild Card, and I use it all over the Cape. PLENTY of new things since 2005 btw. Unless you just stick to the fire road, which seems to be the case, by your inability to negotiate 5 cm puddles without destroying your bike. The trails just look after themselves. The 1200 riders per weekend don't cause any erosion hey? Dude, your argument is weak. Rather put some slicks on your MTB and ride the promenade mate (careful the puddles though)

It's actually better to buy your tools as you need them. You'll pay less for the non cycling specific tools by going to Builders etc. Only buy the best if you can afford it. Save up and buy a decent digital torque wrench.

That's no excuse to cut a corner and create erosion on the trails. If you train hard during the week then it should be easy to tackle the roots section and ride through a couple of puddles. You telling me you're too lazy to ride through an 8cm deep puddle?!! Come on man get real, are you a mountain biker or not? Maybe we should spend the money on having all of the trails tarred so you can bring your road bike? What does the "typical South African attitude" have to do with this? It's not your right to ride at Tokai. We are very very lucky to have this amazing space to play, and heaps of work gets done to make that possible. Cutting corners on switchbacks etc is a big no no anywhere you go. Learn to ride the hard bits man.

Guys, can we start a mailing list to alert everyone for trailbuilding sessions? Maybe shoot a mail to everyone a couple days before? If the next one is this weekend, I'll be able to make it. I've got a couple of thoughts from my last session riding at Tokai. Snakeyes/Rinkhals: I think this trail needs urgent work, or needs closure until such time. The ruts are so deep. I nearly bought a serious chunk of the farm on it as I wasn't expecting this, and hit the one rut at speed, which sucked my wheel in. After the My Roots/Your Rocks sections, there is a trail after the river section that leads to the old tabletop in the clearing. I think it would be rad to re-develop this section. I'm not sure why it hasn't been (is there a reason for this?). We could build a nice berm for the 90 degree right and get a decent lip built on the tabletop. It's a great spot for a good jump, awesome photo potential, and nice and close to the cars to limp back if you case it

I know exactly which root you are talking about. Glad it's gone, makes the line up much faster. SHot for the hard work chaps. I'm off the bike with flu at the moment. Yay Please don't renew your wildcard, and please don't come back to Tokai with this terrible attitude and disregard for the park. I can't believe you're condoning that cut corner. I saw it the other day and I have to wonder how lame these riders are. I though the whole point of MTB was to get nice and dirty.

CB - why not drop Crank Bros a mail. I've always had excellent service from them. They'll likely send you some new Candies as they do business the American way, which is to rather keep you riding on their products and happy. That spring needs to be put in tensioned with a jig AFAIK.

I'm assuming this is City Rock you were talking to? Since they have a lot of 5.10's in stock, even if they don't have your size you could still go and size up a pair, and ship them in yourself. It's so worth it. I went from riding in Vans to these and the diffs is chalk and cheese. These shoes don't budge! But ja, they also told me they'd have no idea when they would get their stock in.

The Vans soles are not hard enough for me. The 5.10s have quite a rigid sole. I feel I get better energy transfer this way, and trust me, I need it, I'm a weakling!

There's the problem with clipless. If you can't jump a bike with flats then you're using the wrong technique. It might serve you ok now to jump by pulling up on the clipless pedals, but the motion is wrong, and at some point if you want to go bigger and stick decent air this wont help you to flow and stay balanced in the air. Edit - as well as air, proper bunny hop technique is essential to clearing logs and things on trails. If you jump with clipped feet, you are likely to lift the whole bike at once. Proper technique sees the front lift first, clear the obstacle, then the back feet come up with the back end. It's an extension of the manual. The pedal stroke point is also subjective (as the article linked points out). I'm happy to hit the most badass trail you like with my 5.10's and a pair of 5050 flats. My feet don't move. If your feet are bouncing off the pedals it means you are not working with the bike. Think of horse riding. You don't need to be clipped in to trot. You move dynamically with the horse. Same principle.

I have both options and switch between them based on what kind of riding I'll be doing. If it's moderate trail riding with few jumps etc I'll opt for the clipless. If I'm on DH terrain or technical trail I prefer to be on flats. Get both, use both for their advantages.

That sounds about right. I have zero faith in the police anymore. Zero. In fact just this morning a cop car jumped a robot in front of me, no sirens, both 'cops' were laughing between themselves. Abuse of power = RSA. This jacking story has been going on for years here. Same areas, NOTHING happens. A German tourist gets raped in the hills, BIIIIG news report from some politician about how sorry and how they'll get to the bottom of it. Ja right. Nobody buys this BS anymore, and people are voting with their feet now. What's the point of saying you live in this beautiful country, when you're forced to stay indoors? Borriz, I reckon it's a syndicate, and your bike was shipped off shore within a few days. They'd likely have kept the Camelbak so hopefully he choked on the mouthpiece.

It took me about 10 minutes before I noticed there was a girl holding the bike up.

Sho, nice wheels dude, and great pix. What you on now?