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  1. From Ray Dobbins Seems like no one really knows!!! ca. 1978 - 1980 ? Colnago Catalog These scans are from Mark Bulgier's site. I ran them through Photoshop to lighten them a little, and I resized them to fit the page. I also reorganized the order of the pages - I grouped the Mexicos and Supers and I put them before all the other pages. I think the catalog is from no earlier than 1977 because: 1. All of the frames use the newer style of head tube decal, which combined the "Asso di Fiori" (Ace of Clubs) with World Championship stripes. It is my understanding that this style of decal came out around 1977 or 78; and 2. All but one of the frames have the more modern recessed-nut brake mounting (I don't think Colnago used recess-mounting before 1977). I also think this catalog is from no later than 1981 because: 1. All of the frames except one use clamp-on front derailleurs (braze-on front derailleurs were introduced in 1982 according to Chuck's Campy Timeline); and 2. Six of the nine frames still use over-the-bb cable routing (this catalog seems to be from a period of transition as to gear cable routing). If anybody has a fix on the date of this catalog, or can narrow it down some more, please let me know, because this is very important stuff UPDATE: I've been told that the Colnago stamping on the chainstays, seen on two of the frames here, dates to circa 1981. If correct, that would make this catalog no earlier than 1981. The Mexicos Note the "through the chainstay" gear cable routing above. I'm not sure if this helps in dating the catalog, but this is the same kind of bike that was presented to the Pope in 1979. Also, this bike, like several of the others in this catalog, has a 4-hole front derailleur, which was introduced in 1978 (according to the Campy Timeline). Neither of the two Mexicos above have crimped tubes. This black and gold Super has a front derailleur with a straight band clamp, dating it, and probably the catalog, to no earlier than 1978 (again, according to the Campy Timeline - thanks Chuck). This Nuovo Mexico Profil may be the "missing link." It's hard to tell because of the white pinstriping, but I enlarged the image to inspect it, and I'm pretty sure the top and down tubes are crimped. The decals on the chainstays only identify this frame as a Mexico (not a Nuovo Mexico Profil), which may be the reason why some of us noticed that the "early" Mexicos (like the first two above), did not have crimped tubing, while the "later" Mexicos (like this one), did have crimped tubing. Notice that the fork crown on this frameset is fully sloping; the gear cable routing is under-the-bb; and there is a braze-on tab for the front derailleur. I believe that the Mexico bike on which Giuseppe Saronni won the 1982 World Championship Road Race was in fact a Nuovo Mexico Profil - check it out below. My Mexico - not a part of the catalog I've always called it a Mexico Oro, but judging from this catalog, I guess I should just call it a Mexico, as the Oro name is used only for the fully gold plated frames like the one given to the Pope. I thought my frame was a 1978 (don't go by the components as they are not original to the frame), but now I'm thinking it is a later original Mexico. Like the two gold-plated Mexicos in the catalog, my frame does not have any crimped tubes and takes a clamp-on front derailleur. But unlike them, it has under-the-bb cable routing (like the Nuovo Mexico Profil). Assuming that the catalog is from 1978, I would say my frame is probably a 1979 or 1980. UPDATE: The chainstays on my frame are not stamped Colnago, so going by the comment I received that the stampings date to circa 1981, my guesstimate as to 1979 or 1980 seems correct (so far). Anyway, back to the catalog... The Supers Well, there it is, a Super with crimped tubing! (That is crimping along the top and down tubes, isn't it?) I always thought that only later Mexicos had it, but I was wrong. This Super has the same paint/decal scheme as Saronni's WC Mexico. Take the "Super" chainstay decals away, and good luck trying to figure out if you have a Super or a Mexico! This Super has the traditional Colnago flat fork crown and uses a clamp-on front derailleur, while the Nuovo Mexico Profil has a sloping fork crown and takes a braze-on front derailleur. The fork tangs are also different. I guess these are things to look at when trying to distinguish between a Super and a Mexico of this vintage. (It used to be so much easier when I thought that only Mexicos had crimped) tubing! UPDATE: Not surprisingly, a couple of people wrote to say that to their eyes, this Super does not have crimped tubing, that it is simply the a dark reflection. I admit that I considered this, and went back and forth many times on my conclusion. In the end I decided it was not just a dark reflection. There is a dark reflection, but there is also a lighter stripe below which seems to be the result of the crimping. But it's a tough call and I can see how someone can come to the conclusion that none of the tubes are crimped. This is a more traditional Super, without crimped tubing, with over-the-bb cable routing, and with no chrome other than the fork crown - the chrome-like decal on the chainstay doesn't count. It also has the paint/decal scheme which I generally associate with Supers (although it was clearly also used on Mexicos).
  2. Five weeks to EROICA BRITANNIA!!!!! I'm riding a Willie Marx made Columbus slx, Shim 600 Tricolour equipped beauty. My son is riding my Guerciotti Record, 105 equipped. 100 to 1 on my son's waiting for me on every hill!!!! YoooHoooooo
  3. After many, many hours polishing and some (creative?) painting. Should I keep the yellow/gold or ditch it? It's for a Red Olmo, yellow decals, not yet finished.
  4. Now you have me confused! Steel Vintage shows almost the exact same as yours, stamped chain stays alles, which they describe as a Nouvo Mexico!!!!!! That suggests, assuming they know what they are talking about, that yours is 82/83 and quite rare .... same as mine!
  5. Man, that is lovely. BUT .... taken from CLASSIC VINTAGE WEBSITE This is about a piece of cycling history - a Colnago Nuovo Mexico from 1983. The Colnago Nuovo Mexico model was produced just in 1982 and 1983 before the Colnago Master was released. As the previous Colnago Mexico, the frame and fork are made of very light Columbus SL steel tubes. The top and the down tubes are crimped: the Nuovo Mexico particularity. The paint of this bicycle is a very typical one, the so called Saronni Red - a deep red color with metallic effect. This Colnago Nuovo Mexico is built with an original Campagnolo Super Record groupset with many pathographed parts: shifters, crank arms, chain ring and stem. If you are looking for an authentic hand-made vintage bicycle, do not search further! Love at first sight! http://www.steel-vintage.com/colnago-nuovo-mexico-classic-bicycle-1983-detail
  6. Edit: very satisfying
  7. Try building the wheels yourself. I've recently built my first pair, took me two days, about 8 hours in total! Made a few fundamental mistakes, but learned a lot and had to pay only R60 to have the wheels checked and spokes torsioned.
  8. TIG welded with NOTICEABLE welds, so probably American or Taiwanese. I don't think European/UK, although that fork looks suspiciously PEUGEOTesque! Possibly SA. Could be PRODUX, SA built ali bikes, from mid 90s, . Is the Cyclo Pro chain guard new, or has been on there since new? Rob Rudman would have been the owner when that bike was new, but Cyclo is now run by his daughter. It's worth asking if you really want your bike's provenance. In the absence of anything better, the answer may be in the fork markings, if you ever strip it! Sorry can't be of more help. edit: Produx maybe early 2000, rather than mid 90s, don't remember!!!
  9. Cool bike workstand Eppie, just wondering why it's not on the wall inside the house!!!
  10. Talking of HELLIUMs, I'm looking for a rear, if anyone finds one.
  11. Shimano cassettes (the cheaper ones anyway) are held together by metal dowels, peened on each side. It's easy to drill the dowels out to get the single cogs. You can then use the Campy spacers and any ratio you like. It then becomes a choice of chains, Shimano chain will give slightly better shifting (noticeable ??????) than a Campy chain!!!!
  12. Man that looks dodgy!!!!! I suggest you retire it to my bedroom.
  13. Around this time!!!!!!!
  14. Absolute beauts, you're one lucky loosecog!
  15. I remember EXOCET road bikes from the early/mid 80s, just after the Falkland war. Not sure of their provenance, but Morph is probably right, I seem to recall them as being local.
  16. Has anyone tried the local streaming services??? vidi.co.za pushplay.co.za I'm interested to know what they are like. Are they worth the $? Quite a lot more than some of the international offerings!
  17. prednisone I do and have used it for: gout asthma water on the knee edit: I think hayfever too
  18. Whether you can ask them anything I wouldn't know, I've never bought from them! But, no one asking them to break the law, unless labelling tools used for repairing bicycles as bicycle parts is breaking the law. Perhaps it is, in which case BICYCLE TOOLS.
  19. Perhaps ask them to mark them as BICYCLE SPARE PARTS
  20. I've asked Tyerone to make me up a set of decals for a GIOS TORINO. Does anyone have one that we can get the font size /lettering measurements from??? Searched the interwebs, but not found anything, other than decal sets.
  21. Nowhere near the numbers and nowhere near the quality, but I was thinking today about this obsession!!!! Goodness knows how much I've spent on gear and brake cables! Cable housing? How much on cable ends? Rim tape? OLD tyres and new tubes? Saddles? Tools? and then there's the really expensive stuff. THIS IS NOT A CHEAP OBSESSION.
  22. To add fuel to the fire! The BB is Italian threaded, suggesting it's not French, at least LOOK or VITUS. As far as I know, both of these use English thread BBs. Other than Alan and Colnago (which it ain't) anyone know of other early Italian lugged carbon frames?
  23. Thanks Morph, but it sort of adds to the mystery. I must be honest and say that I don't remember them at all, but then I lived and cycled in PE and, as I recall, we only had 3 bike shops: Cyclo Pro & BMX Coimbra Action Cycling (late 80s) all still around too, which is cool. But I digress, I wonder where / who they imported them from? Perhaps they were Alans!!!
  24. I searched LOOK images too, nada. Maybe I'll search Peugeot carbon.
  25. Ja, could be, except can't find hide nor hair of anything bicycle related (other tan Mosquito bike shop)!!!!
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