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  1. None, ride your bike. The principle of specificity dictates that muscles adaptions that occur with specific joint angles and muscle contraction velocities do not translate to totally different joint angles and muscle velocities. Cycling is an aerobic sport, and cycling performance is primarily dictated by aerobic performance. Sprinting performance can best be improved by sprinting, standing starts etc on the bike. Think about it - in cycling you perform upwards of 90 repititions per minute, for a number of hours, at a muscle contraction force of less than 20% of your maximum force. Even in a sprint of 10 seconds, you will perform 900 repititions - doing 10 repititions with weights is a totally different exercise. Anyway, this topic has been debated hugely here, make up your own mind on it.
  2. As you can see, the team went out too hard in the first 2 hours. Riding with 11 riders I was averaging over 300watts. The third hour is a bit skewed because there is significant descent during that period (see the average speed), but then the team blew. Last two hours the wattage is right down, and we had less riders, so things weren't going well. I spent that time pacing in L3 trying to get the guys home.
  3. Race:Duration: 5:41:40 (5:41:51)Work: 5061 kJTSS: 371.6 (intensity factor 0.809)Norm Power:283VI: 1.14Distance: 201.105 kmMinMaxAvgPower: 0776248wattsHeart rate: 80165145bpmCadence: 2919372rpmSpeed: 083.735.4kphPace 00:4300:0001:42min/kmOp de Tradouws:Duration: 15:35Work: 303 kJTSS: 23.1 (intensity factor 0.943)Norm Power:330VI: 1.02Distance: 5.091 kmMinMaxAvgPower: 64553324wattsHeart rate: 00:00163158bpmCadence: 449571rpmSpeed: 13.439.819.6kphPace 01:3004:2903:04min/kmTradouws:Duration: 15:15Work: 298 kJTSS: 22.6 (intensity factor 0.942)Norm Power:330VI: 1.01Distance: 4.909 kmMinMaxAvgPower: 64553325wattsHeart rate: 143163158bpmCadence: 449571rpmSpeed: 13.434.519.3kphPace 01:4404:2903:06min/kmHour 1:Duration: 59:22 (59:23)Work: 996 kJTSS: 75.9 (intensity factor 0.876)Norm Power:307VI: 1.1Distance: 34.353 kmMinMaxAvgPower: 0731280wattsHeart rate: 80165148bpmCadence: 00:0000:0000:00rpmSpeed: 064.434.7kphPace 00:5600:0001:44min/kmHour 2:Duration: 01:00:00Work: 969 kJTSS: 75.8 (intensity factor 0.871)Norm Power:305VI: 1.13Distance: 34.576 kmMinMaxAvgPower: 0776269wattsHeart rate: 110163150bpmCadence: 3317472rpmSpeed: 00:0074.834.6kphPace 00:4800:0001:44min/kmHour 3:Duration: 59:52 (1:00:02)Work: 795 kJTSS: 59 (intensity factor 0.774)Norm Power:271VI: 1.21Distance: 43.844 kmMinMaxAvgPower: 0750224wattsHeart rate: 106159141bpmCadence: 2918871rpmSpeed: 3.983.744.5kphPace 00:4315:2301:21min/kmHour 4:Duration: 01:00:00Work: 837 kJTSS: 56.2 (intensity factor 0.75)Norm Power:262VI: 1.13Distance: 38.197 kmMinMaxAvgPower: 0703233wattsHeart rate: 115158141bpmCadence: 2919370rpmSpeed: 21.257.638.2kphPace 01:0302:5001:34min/kmHour 5:Duration: 01:00:00Work: 891 kJTSS: 61.4 (intensity factor 0.784)Norm Power:274VI: 1.11Distance: 29.571 kmMinMaxAvgPower: 0597247wattsHeart rate: 118159147bpmCadence: 3014370rpmSpeed: 9.754.429.6kphPace 01:0606:1102:02min/kmHour 6:Duration: 42:28:00Work: 574 kJTSS: 41.4 (intensity factor 0.765)Norm Power:268VI: 1.19Distance: 20.589 kmMinMaxAvgPower: 0555225wattsHeart rate: 110159142bpmCadence: 2916670rpmSpeed: 056.529.1kphPace 01:0400:0002:04min/kmMinor Climb 1 @ 178km:Duration: 03:42Work: 70 kJTSS: 5.3 (intensity factor 0.927)Norm Power:n/aVI: n/aDistance: 1.048 kmMinMaxAvgPower: 161433317wattsHeart rate: 149159156bpmCadence: 529069rpmSpeed: 12.132.316.9kphPace 01:5104:5803:34min/kmMinor Climb 2 @ 181km:Duration: 06:53Work: 124 kJTSS: 8.9 (intensity factor 0.88)Norm Power:308VI: 1.02Distance: 2.146 kmMinMaxAvgPower: 200437300wattsHeart rate: 137158152bpmCadence: 469471rpmSpeed: 14.83418.6kphPace 01:4604:0303:13min/kmMinor Climb 3 @ 188km:Duration: 05:31Work: 105 kJTSS: 7.8 (intensity factor 0.923)Norm Power:323VI: 1.02Distance: 1.549 kmMinMaxAvgPower: 201433318wattsHeart rate: 143159152bpmCadence: 4610370rpmSpeed: 1225.516.7kphPace 02:2105:0003:35min/km
  4. I think you answered my question right there Bruce. So the higher the heart rate the higher the intensity of the training - which at the right time would result in quicker improvement on the bike. Is that right? So could one say that in a race one wants the intensity at a lower heart rate but in order to achieve that one needs to train at a certain power at a higher heart rate so that the intensity of training is higher.Not quite There are a couple of problems with this approach: HR lags behind intensity, by up to a couple of minutes. So for intensities around pVO2Max HR is too slow to give a good guide to the intensity you are performing at. At lower intensities, HR is somewhat linearly related to intensity, but it is also impacted by hydration, fatigue levels, excitement levels, core body temperature, and other things. So it is a guide but it is impacted by lot's of other things, not just intensity. Above VO2Max, power is being produced by non-aerobic processes which do (by definition) not use oxygen and hence do not have the same effect on the heart. The training effect is produced by progressive overload. I.e. the body is subjected to incrementally more training dose, it responds to this dose, recovers to get stronger, and hence the dose can be increased. Training dose = intensity x volume. Now, since watts are a direct measure of intensity, the power you produce, for the time you produce it, is an exact measure of the training dose you have subjected your body to. By incrementally increasing this dose, positive training adaption occurs. HR is not really required in this process, it is just an overall indicator of how your body is responding to the intensity, it is not a measure of the intensity.
  5. Yes, the speed vs. power curve is exponential, if wind resistance is the primary force you are overcoming. Riding up a hill is a different story because gravity does not change with speed, hence speed increases linearly with power.
  6. Just the cadence will be slower? Power = torque (force) x angular velocity (cadence), so if you increase cadence, you must decrease torque (i.e. push an "easier" gear) to achieve the same power output. Although the gear is easier per revolution, you have to do more of them, so you end up doing the same amount of work for a given time period and hence you are producing the same power output. And vice versa of course. I'll be back to this conversation in a short while - gotta put the kids to bed!
  7. Yes, sure - which is why I said in my original post "all things being equal" Power is the rate of doing work. So if you are lifting a mass against gravity it is a much greater force than wind resistance, so your power output is high even though you are moving slowly. However, on the same gradient, wind, rolling resistance, the more watts you produce the faster you go.
  8. The speed will not be slower - watts are directly related to speed. Gear combo's are irrelevant. bruce2007-11-20 10:40:04
  9. This is a very interesting question! The simple answer is that watts are a direct measure of exercise intensity. HR is a response to that intensity. Note that you should not be going faster at the same wattage. All things being equal (gradient, wind, rolling resistance, etc) the number of watts you are producing dictates how fast you go. The complicated answer has to do with muscle composition. For a given wattage (270 in your case) the higher the cadence, the lower the torque because power is calculated from torque x angular velocity (cadence). As torque increases, so your muscles will recruit more fast twitch fibres so the power is produced by a different combination of muscle fibres when cycling with big gears or small gears. Now, depending on your particular muscle makeup, this may be better or worse for you. Plenty of research has shown that your body is good at selecting the cadence/torque combination which suits it best which is why there is a move away from previously held beliefs that high cadence is always a good thing (ala Armstrong). [Edit] The recruitment of more slow twitch fibres places more strain on the cardiovascular system because these fibres are oxidative, i.e. they operate aerobically - hence HR will rise.bruce2007-11-20 10:38:03
  10. You're giving away my training secrets now Anyway, I limit my intake to 1 slice!!
  11. I thought about taking up the javelin - but it hurts when you hit the ground after flying 100m
  12. Sleeping on the coach???? Jason, there are certain ethical boundaries that should not be crossed between the coach and athlete!!
  13. There are 101 things I could say in response to this, none of them would be acceptable on this forum
  14. Thanks Thug, coming from a 'pool supporter that means even more!!
  15. Thanks Michelle! Please will you use "bruce dot diesel at gmail dot com" - can receive huge files there!
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