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There is a big difference between wheelsucking in a bunch and wheelsucking in a break like that.Especialy if you are that close to the finish with the bunch 10seconds behind you...only reason at that stage to not help is if you don't have the legs and you will settle for 2nd or 3rd.

Not when you sprint from a break!he took the chance and it paid off for him but had the bunch closed the gap he and Greenedge would have been left with nothing.When the bunch is that close everybody normaly would race as hard as they can and do their bit to make sure the break works.Then the last 100m its a free for all!!Personaly i would not want to win like that but thats just me. Sprinting from a bunch when your team works for you is somethng completely different.

Yes Simon had a nice ride!!wheelsucked for 7km,did one turn of about 15seconds in the last 3km and then took the sprint!!Hope he feels good about that win...when you go into a break like that everybody should do their part...espesialy during those last flat 3km!!

Nibali should have been in the lead already he missed out on 10 seconds thanks to Sagan ,big problem for your team there. Think Horner is a good TT rider so i think it will be close. Maybe Kreuziger ends up taking it!

Interesting article!! http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sagan-wins-at-nibalis-expense If Nibali ends up losing this tour by less than 10 seconds it will be bad for the team!! This is the second time this season Sagan may have cost the team a GC win by going for stage wins and sprint primes. But yes like i said before...he is young and will learn.

Yes great finish to a very hard day on the bike!!7hours30...and they basicly sprinted those last 2km. Would have loved live coverage of this race. http://m.youtube.com/index?desktop_uri=%2F&gl=ZA#/watch?v=BU01P-ZNTVE

Thanks guys was a great ride....some very good Epic training!! Here is a pick of Bigshow and Dirk on the way back next to the railway line. Think Dirk was shouting at Bigshow to slow down...the big man can ride a bike that is for sure!!

Aag Bliksem that is bad!! I am riding Epic and the first thing that went through my mind was F#$# I hope I did not break anything!! Was waiting for you, hoping that you could help me chase back.....always bad that something like this happens, especially on a straight road when we are not even up to racing speed!!

Did you go down as well? sort off remember seeing you there....you must have been up in no time. I had a mess, got up...bike tangled...get on...chain off..get off put chain back, get back on...breaks rubbing because the calliper shifted and wheel is buckled. Finally head down chase like crazy, only to miss the marshal were we needed to turn. :thumbdown: Sounds like i did not miss much...but would have loved to have been part of te race at least.

Think I might have been one of the guys that hit you....I was I think the 3rd one down!!Big mess getting up from that one....tried to make it back to the bunch but missed the turn off and had to turn around after the bridge. Body hurting today..bike not looking to good!! :thumbdown: Think the Mtn guy that came down made it back. Personally I think the guy that started the crash made a bit of an amateur mistake if you ask me.....

Spinnie,gebruik jy daai phedra cut goed en jy is nogsteeds so dik?? Anyway on a more serious note Spinnekop, I really admire you for putting in all the effort to make sure you don't take any wrong stuff...especially when you are sick. Me I have stop caring a couple of years ago....I take my protein shake after a race...drink a carb drink and eat as much red meat as I can get my hands on!! And when I am sick I take whatever the doctor gives me..get better and get back on my bike as soon as I can. If I get busted for taking meds that was the best thing for me at the time, then so be it..they can go ahead and ban me anytime. Think someone said it here, why should we worry about stuff like that anymore? We are now fun riders that like to race in our age cats and compete to the best of our ability. I race clean....hell I don't even train on anything but water most of the time. I’ve got slight asma(spelling?) still and really struggle with it from time to time but I don't even use an asma pump...to much of a schlep. If someone want to use drugs to make him faster he can go right ahead and enjoy it....makes no difference to me, I am still going to show up and try and beat everybody there and if I can't hopefully one of my teammates can do it.If not we go home and try again next week!! It's FUN!!

Yes the first climb was one of the best I have ever done....the smooth riding makes it a bit easier to enjoy the climb and the scenery. Think it does however take a lot out of you still because climbing for more than an hour nonstop hurts the legs even if you try and take it easy. Compared to some of the climbs we did at sabiexperience in December these climbs did feel a lot harder to me...

Kosmonooit, I found that second climb on the Ultra not all that "smooth”, maybe I was just getting very tired but on the hardtail the second climb was a lot harder to keep a good pace and line. Anyway’ s this was my first Ultra..have never done anything above 75km in a race and I must say it was hard as hell for me.I really struggled during the last 45 km and had almost no power left. Lost both my water bottles so I spend loads of time at the water points refuelling and resting!! First 70 to 75km I did in like 3 hours 50 I think (where was that first checkpoint that they have on the results??) and I took it as easy as possible in those mountains..the last 45 km then had me out there for another 3 hours 50!!!Crazy!! But all and all I loved the race!!Not every day you get an opportunity to climb mountains like that and the scenery was amazing!! Learned a lot about ultra-riding and I have loads of respect for the guys that race stuff like that full gas....not sure how they do it!! Will be there next year that’s for sure!!

Hallo,yes frame only for somewhere close to R14000 Thanks,also looking at the scott and merida but still need to find out about price.

VERTEX 990 RSL http://www.bikes.com...SCATID=2&Y=2012 What do you guys think about this Frame/bike? Looking to upgrade to a carbon frame on my 29er and need some advice? The frame is very light so that is a plus for me...only the scott is really lighter. What other option do I have in the R14 000 price range? Would love to hear from some guys with experience with this Frame/Brand.

Have you guys tried Strava.com? If you train with a Garmin, iPhone or Android device it is brilliant!! You can download your files and then compare your times on segments of your route (for example a specific climb) that other riders have done before. So it shows you how many other riders have done that climb and how you rate. You can also create your own segment and compete against your previous efforts and if anybody then rides that segment it will show you their result. If you ride Groenkloof for instance most of those single track sections are segments and you can then see how you fare against others riders and your previous rides. It also has a social component to it, you can follow friends and pro's to see what they are up to.

I bet you my 29er was cheaper than yours....ok was before I did some upgrades. But the topic(off topic - topic) is still very interesting to me. I have always been drawn to the racing aspect of cycling. Especially the road side because the tactics during a race I love, that’s racing for me. When I race with the elites it is great to see the big teams take on each other and then the rest of us are just passengers but then when I race Subvets I become part of those tactics and that’s what makes it so exciting!! I have raced with many guy's in many different teams and it is interesting to see that you get some guy's that just love to ride their bikes and then race them as well, and then some who just ride and train because they want to race. I have a friend here in Pretoria....strong as hell but he stopped racing for a couple of years because he just got tired of it. He still does 150km rides every weekend and rides he's bike more than most top guys he's age. Because he just love to ride he's bike. I bet he would also love to the Mtb scene but he is just too tall, it is impossible for him to find something that fits him… :lol: I admire that because I am not sure I would ride and train like that once I stop racing.

WTF you on drugs or something?? What has that got to do with my post about racing versus just doing an event for the fun of it? What I race on has got nothing to do with the Fact that I race my bike because I Love to race and compete.

The condradiction just shows you the difference in the mind-set one can have about an event. I ride my bike for one reason only and that is to race, I love racing my bike because I can compete on it. I might do one or 2 events a year on a bike that I enter just to ride my bike and then mostly I end up not enjoying it. But when I run I have a different mind-set, I might try and run a PB once or twice a year but the rest of the time I just do the event because it's a nice way to spend a Saturday morning....

Don't know about that one....I enjoy my bike because I can race it, if I could not race then I am not sure I would ride that much in the first place. To me it’s all about pushing yourself as hard as possible while trying to beat the other guy that gets me on a bike, it's the race that I want!! Then again when I go to a running race I have no chance in hell to compete so I just run to enjoy being out there with likeminded people...so it really depends on what you want from the event.

4 of the SL top 5 out and still no hundreds....

Racing Ralph Snakeskin :clap: Did the Sabiexperience on them in Desember and i love them,strong light and grips perfect!!

Love reading some of the commends on Kallis on this tread now..... 224!!!!!! That’s the thing about being one of the greats of the game...if you have scored more than 12000 runs in test cricket and you are only 1 of 4 players to have ever done it you also get to silence your critics more often than not!! Wonder how many people in India would call for Tendulkar's head after 1 or 2 bad tests????

Thanks!!We arrive on the 20th so I think I might just do that race. Will send you a pm.