Brogue

Nope, both pages are gone with the wind, like the cowards they appear to be for refusing to answer the damning allegations against them.

I don't subscribe to that school of thought. Social media is an environment almost guaranteed to get results, either way. They burnt you, and refused to do the right thing when you re-approached them after discovering they sold you a dud. They deserve to be outed, shamed, publicly flogged and thoroughly humiliated for their arrogance, greed, lack of ethics and dishonesty. I say OFF WITH THEIR HEADS.

Tuesday toilet humour, and you're cheap too. Anyway, you didn't shout "dibs", so the offer is void.

- It appears you don't have clarity on the genuine/fake issue coz you still question it - It's FAKE, not remotely grey or parallel - The LBS lied to him TWICE, initially on date of purchase and then again when they stated "he knew the bike was a grey import" - I ride a 2013 20k Silverback Space 1.0, I didn't check the existence of a serial number when I bought it from my LBS, I doubt many people do. -

Did they try sell you a Chinarello @ 90k, and paper over their dishonesty with mock indignation? I'd love to hear their side of the story, BUT it will need to be pretty fantastic to sway me in their favour.

When did you last check, why did you check, and what's your point? The OP got diddled by a "reputable LBS", it's neither fair nor pleasant. Price is irrelevant.

Fixed. Other than that your post is spot on

Then you're unlucky to have walked into the one shop that saw you coming. Not everybody researches everything they buy to death before making a purchase. The store down the road would've sold the OP the genuine article and he would have blissfully happy despite never having visited Pina's website. This type of unsavory incident and business practise affects us all. He's obviously learned an expensive lesson, and doesn't want anyone else to make the same mistake.

Speak for yourself, I'm ambidextrous

Some are more fortunate than others, that doesn't mean Cycle Scientology (sic) is entitled to sell crap or rip people off, or even that the OP (or anyone for that matter) deserves a wallet-bashing. Perhaps his intention was to warn a concentrated community of cyclists not to make the same mistake at the same store as soon as possible, rather than go into minute detail about what he has done to recover his initial outlay or intends to do to seek compensation and justice. P.S: ASG have confirmed the frame is genuine chinarello, not merely a grey or parallel import.

Hope that applies to the considerable fringe benefit's accrued in KZN by our "esteemed" chief thief.

Looking forward to seeing this retailer go:

City Cycles, Canal Walk (pricey) Olympic Cycles, Lansdowne Gecko Cycles in Brackenfell

"Dibs" is one of those pointless "hubberisms". Another favourite, yet useless response, in reply to a bike or frame being advertised, "how much does it weigh?", only for the seller never to hear from the inquirer again. Both show misleading, but marginal, interest without any effort.

https://www.bikehub.co.za/classifieds/84349-ladies-bianchi-c2c-infinito-2011/ Made for you Shorty

If it's all about the rider only, the pros shouldn't have a problem competing on a BMX

I assume you're referring to a road bike, and comfort is important? Try the Scott brand, they manufacture woman specific models with good components and are well priced if you shop around carefully at reputable bike stores. http://www.scott-sports.com/za/en/bikefinder/home#/Road/EnduranceRoad/ComfortEndurance

What beeg eyes you have Dips Added you on Strava bud.

Exactly my point, one "law abiding" approach doesn't fit all. Common sense should prevail, rather than a blind obsession with red, green and everything inbetween.

Sat afternoon I went for a spin on my thin wheels. Coming out of the estate I stopped at the traffic light at the bottom of Helgarda Avenue in Hout Bay (intending to cross over into Victoria Road and left into Valley Road). Helgarda is a residential road, not a general thoroughfare. It was quiet, no cars behind me for some time. I waited, and waited (and waited), watching paint dry, grass grow and the cars opposite and to either side go on their merry way at least three times. I'm good like that, coz I'm a law abiding sheep. There were times when there were NO cars at any of these traffic lights, yet I continued waiting. "My" lights didn't morph green until a car, eventually, stopped behind me. Traffic lights are designed to regulate VEHICLES. Cyclists should be empowered to use their common sense, but should equally take responsibility for the additional freedom

Say 15 Hail Mary's if you require absolution for your red traffic light sins, and stay safe. It's a jungle out there, and in here.

Had a chuckle when I saw your Endo term of endearment for, perfectly apt thought. I'm deffo not synching my dropbox with Tapirik, far too many noodies in there

Howdy Rasta, Agree, 650 is too little but 900 seems a tad much. Does your Garmin 810 elevation profile match strava's estimate for this race in particular, and all activities in general? Mine doesn't, Garmin is faaar more accurate. I don't trust Strava's elevation calculations, they're exaggerated (at best). I recently had a chat to Strava regarding this. After the Argus I noticed Strava elevation profiles for rides recorded by an iPhone App were almost double the accepted "norm" elevation for the Cycle Tour. Below is their wishy washy reply. Anyway, my convoluted point is that I'd rather trust my Garmin data than Strava's pie in the elevation sky. "https://strava.zendesk.com/entries/20965883-Elevation-for-Your-Activity To give you a quick summary, when a rider records his or her activity with the Strava iPhone App, we look up the elevation in databases, using the activity's GPS data to tell us where the activity took place. For activities located outside of the US, we consult the ASTER and SRTM databases. The article describes some of the issues with using elevation databases. It is important to remember that elevation data from all sources (barometric altimeters, GPS signals, and databases) is subject to error and that the elevation gain for an activity is an estimate. We are always working on improving our elevation data sets and algorithms."

STOPPIT Lucifer

+1 That 27.5 Trance 2 is an evil machine, it makes me wanna spend money I don't have on a bike I don't "need" .