Brogue

Didn't see that coming. You appear to have inside knowledge, how come? A thief that is caught redhanded and subsequently hands back the stolen goods remains a thief. I'm looking forward to hearing from the OP regarding the refund. Cycle Science will remain indelibly etched in our minds for a very long time to come.

How long is a piece of string? The Trance 2 650B pictured is a sweet machine, but it may not be everyone's cuppa. Only YOU can decide what suits your style of riding, pocket and ultimately taste. Have fun either way.

Weigh yourself on a digital scale, then weigh yourself holding the bike, deduct the former from the latter to establish the weight. Rudimentary, but relatively accurate. Otherwise pop into your local LBS for an exact weight measurement.

A peaceful protest ride, ending with a coffee at Europa around the corner, can never be construed as encouraging thuggery. Mere solidarity, nothing more.

Ha, that's me far right wearing my new rays!

Trance 650B, should only set you back about 20k, leaving you with a good whack of cash to kit her out with dropper post and other juicy goodies.

I suggested a hubber protest ride to Broadacres Shopping Centre Saturday 9a.m. You know, for a coffee So far only Dips, Escapee and r0adrunner are participating. We need more numbers!

Post counts indicate a basic level of understanding of how the system works, your broom has no bristles yet. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, including you, but rubbing others up the wrong way from the outset isn't the way to go. Take it easy bud, tomorrow is another day. Enjoy your evening.

Is that you Peanut Butter?

Nie so mooi nie Hennie

5K as your starting advertised price, 4000-4500 as your probable final negotiated result. Be flexible, be realistic, but don't be soft on chancers.

"The saddle and bar/stem are parts that we regularly sell and we are confident that they are in fact fake" Unfortunately worded sentence, easily misunderstood. Yes, great service from a real LBS that prides itself in the work that they do. It's a Dog(ma) eat Dog(ma) world out there! .

Good advice HC

Probably about 4-5k Bud. Have a look at the absolute bargains available in the classifieds on mainstream branded, high spec, machines.

Protest ride to Broadacres Shopping Centre Saturday 9a.m, you in?

Not at all, just organise a ride and stand outside the shop drinking coffee en-masse. Dips, if this happened in Slaapstad I would organise the ride personally.

Dishonesty affects us all. Based on this thread alone, most (with the exception of TheV and a few others), are up in arms about the brazen, arrogance of Cycle Psychos. Yet, alarmingly, nobody is willing to do anything about it. We feign mock indignation, but nobody is prepared to get involved. Why don't a group of hubbers organise a ride to Broadacres Shopping Centre on Saturday morning, and pop in at the store? I don't advocate anything more than a show of solidarity for the OP. Just a "we know what you're up to, and the game is over" type visit. No harm, no foul. Cycle Science will continue to fleece new customers daily and operate as they have in the past with absolute impunity if WE, cyclists in general and hubbers in particular, don't highlight this issue. Talk online is cheap, actions speak louder than words. C'mon fellows and fellowettes, organise a protest ride. Edit: spelling

Dumb luck. Perhaps they've upped their fake imports recently considering they were getting away with it before. Either way, the cracks are starting to show on their fake smiles.

BRILLIANT!

Double post

It was a rhetorical question, he didn't ask you to spend his money for him. Stick to the topic, BUD.

OP's choice of brand, not yours bud.

No waaaays, I'm still within my 48hr "first option" window period .

Good morning Admin, Tried voting, received this as a system response:

Nada Zipp (not fake) Bupkiss Zero Buggerall Apart from their initial confirmation that the OP's frame is FAKE. How are your wounds healing since the Argooos, and how did you get along with the insurance company regarding your frame?