Well, my Pyro 2000 (via Groupon) arrived via courier this afternoon. Hannes did indicate to me (in his prompt responses to my PM's querying anticipated delivery dates) that Groupon only paid for and collected the stock last week, so its arrival today is pretty good in my opinion. A lot has been said about the different LED versions of the various Magicshine lamps offered mostly by the two local vendors on the Hub. Based on how bright this unit is in my un-scientific backyard test earlier which involved waving it about clicking through the 5 power settings while illuminating the far wall and neighbours house (and how my head is still spinning from foolishly looking at the lamp while it turned on), my guess is that most of us would be very happy with either of the 4000K or 6000K temp options. The fact that both vendors appear to go out of their way to communicate and resolve issues with customers, says to me that you'll be happy whichever route you've chosen to go. Regarding Groupon and their recommended retail prices, I never believe any company's RRP as they are always inflated in my opinion, allowing them room to manouver in their discounting. You just need to consider what values are put to prizes in the many competitions we see advertised regularly in the media e.g. "win this tube of lip gloss worth R5000". I always do price research on any product I'm considering purchasing, as I did with this Groupon deal and would if I was buying a TV or washing machine. I thought the differences between the Pyro and Extreme lights offered were pretty clear in the Groupon offer despite the heading refering only to Pyro and I also thought the R1500 price for the Pyro 2000 model was R500 less than current available pricing (not RRP) and still think it was a good deal. Nice work by Magicshine (hubname) for matching this and ensuring more riders were able to enjoy this keen pricing. My only dissapointment is that my Moonshine HID light which I have used for a few years and even in some mtb night races, and used to think was brilliant, it now just lame in comparison to the new LED technology. Lighting and battery technology have come a long way since those days of crappy torches with halogen lamps and penlight batteries! One of the many positives of this is that the more of these new generation lights there are in use, the safer it makes us as we become much more visible on the road in the morning/evening. Edit: Performance update Used the Pyro 2000 early Wednesday morning for a dark road ride (Morningside to Umhlanga & back via back roads, some of which are very dark). I specifically had both the Moonshine HID and Pyro 2000 on my bike at the same time to really compare. No contest. The Pyro 2000 lights up the road like nothing I've ever seen and is much more than necessary for road riding. Based on this, I would say the smaller/cheaper/lighter units will suit those who stay on the road, especially those models which have a flash mode which is great for once it is light to increase visibility. Can't wait to take it offroad.