Velo Sports Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Hi The full range of SwiftCarbon bikes is finally here in SA. Check out the online store - http://www.swiftcarbon.co.za/ Launch pricing valid until end of March. Cheers
Rebound Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 I am riding one at the moment! Definitely worth a look and a ride ;)Great value for money...
javadude Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) These are nice looking frames, although the company is selling rebranded Taiwanese frames and coming across as if they are the technical innovators : "We have worked hard to engineer the best Nano Technology resins and our patented Glide Tech Molding process allows us to deliver to you , an unrivalled riding experience . Innovation born truly on the ride" Edited March 22, 2011 by velo
Eldron Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 These are nice looking frames, although the company is selling rebranded Taiwanese frames and coming across as is they are the technical innovators : "We have worked hard to engineer the best Nano Technology resins and our patented Glide Tech Molding process allows us to deliver to you , an unrivalled riding experience . Innovation born truly on the ride" Dude...thats a bit offsides...ultimately EVERYBODY sells rebranded Taiwanese frames. The bikes look good and the prices are competitive...that TT bike is droolworthy!
Jaco-fiets Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 The first few mtb frames that came across almost all cracked. Is this issue sorted out?
javadude Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Dude...thats a bit offsides...ultimately EVERYBODY sells rebranded Taiwanese frames. So being dishonest is ok then? So you go tell everyone what an awesome innovator you are and how much experience you have in carbon and then go pick a frame off the shelf from your Taiwanese supplier.
Bike Mob Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 I have been riding the Swift R838 ISP since the beginning of the year and am very impressed with the finish, durability and stiffness... overall a very good performer. Like Eldron Says, most manufacturers take bikes out of the Giant Factories and brand, but saying they have no technical input to customise their bikes is short-sighted. Orbea is designed in Spain and manufactured in the east, as well as Specialized designed and R&D in US and produced in Taiwan.... Canondale, Scott, you name it... to generalise and say it's merely picked from a lineup is a ridiculous claim and i'd like to see you substantiate it?
Shebeen Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 These are nice looking frames, although the company is selling rebranded Taiwanese frames and coming across as if they are the technical innovators : "We have worked hard to engineer the best Nano Technology resins and our patented Glide Tech Molding process allows us to deliver to you , an unrivalled riding experience . Innovation born truly on the ride" it would appear they are involved in the design side and not just rebranding stock frames with some fancy schmarketing.from the international site:My link Mark Blewett National S.A Team Captain and International Professional cyclist in the 90’s, Mark rode for French and Portuguese Professional teams. He also studied Industrial Design, so the move into bike design was a natural progression . Mark works closely with some of the best known Industrial and material engineers in Holland , who have produced Tour De France Prologue winners' equipment , to produce a dedicated racing line of Road and TT /Tri bikes .
javadude Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 I have been riding the Swift R838 ISP since the beginning of the year and am very impressed with the finish, durability and stiffness... overall a very good performer. Like Eldron Says, most manufacturers take bikes out of the Giant Factories and brand, but saying they have no technical input to customise their bikes is short-sighted. Orbea is designed in Spain and manufactured in the east, as well as Specialized designed and R&D in US and produced in Taiwan.... Canondale, Scott, you name it... to generalise and say it's merely picked from a lineup is a ridiculous claim and i'd like to see you substantiate it? Sorry, but these guys are buying off the shelf frames from x-space in Taiwan. I'm not doubting the quality of the frames because even De Rosa are using the non ISP version of the 838. Go have a look for yourself, even the model designations are the same. http://www.xpa-cycling.com/products.php?cls2=6&key=2
Eldron Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 So being dishonest is ok then? So you go tell everyone what an awesome innovator you are and how much experience you have in carbon and then go pick a frame off the shelf from your Taiwanese supplier. Deciding they're doshonest with no proof is a big claim...or if you have proof then I guess this is the place to post it... ...failing that (plus given the info above) perhaps an apology from your side is in order?
javadude Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Deciding they're doshonest with no proof is a big claim...or if you have proof then I guess this is the place to post it... ...failing that (plus given the info above) perhaps an apology from your side is in order? So, either Swift owns X-pace, or they are using their superior carbon knowledge to create exact clones of the X-pace frame line up. I don't know, i'm not a genius but i'm not stupid either. http://www.xpa-cycling.com/products.php?cls2=6&key=2
AndreZA Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 BTW, what ever happened to the Volcan not being Swiss issue?
Mackie Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 Sorry, but these guys are buying off the shelf frames from x-space in Taiwan. I'm not doubting the quality of the frames because even De Rosa are using the non ISP version of the 838. Go have a look for yourself, even the model designations are the same. http://www.xpa-cycling.com/products.php?cls2=6&key=2So?
Mackie Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 BTW, what ever happened to the Volcan not being Swiss issue?I think the peeps moved on.
Eldron Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 (edited) So, either Swift owns X-pace, or they are using their superior carbon knowledge to create exact clones of the X-pace frame line up. I don't know, i'm not a genius but i'm not stupid either. http://www.xpa-cycling.com/products.php?cls2=6&key=2 That is rather daming evidence I must say. 'fess up VELO SPORTS - which is it? Are you involved in the design of the bikes or just the spray job? Ah tis a grey area this "custom spray and sell" taiwanese bike business... Edited March 22, 2011 by Eldron
CAAD4 Posted March 22, 2011 Posted March 22, 2011 I think the peeps moved on. Last I remember their legal team stepped in and the thread was closed. Disgruntled former employee I think it was.
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