grb285 Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/270882_10150304998225359_587070358_9552141_4231300_n.jpg http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/271047_10150304998295359_587070358_9552142_6477962_n.jpg 2010 GT Force Carbon ExpertFox Talas RCFox RP23 BoostvalveFull XT groupset with XTR ShiftersMavic XM 719 Rims Superstar Hubs - in greenAerozine?? Rotors - in greenKCNC 80mm Stem750mm Spank Spike barsODI grips DX pedalsFizik Gobi seat still need to take a clearer pic! .... Hey can you guys lower your seats before taking these photos. These bikes look dumb with the seat above the bars like that, and I challenge you to ride a decent line with your arse so high in the air
Iwan Kemp Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 Tough as nails. Had a SL before and even that took some serious abuse. My riding buddy's Alu frame rear tri gave way and we ride together 95% of the time and do 100% the same stuff. Even though I look after my stuff I don't wrap it in cotton to go down the mountain. I often do DH runs (Paarl / Tokai / Eden) on the HD (did on the SL as well) and haven't had any issues. Rumor is MOST carbon frames can still drop a lot of weight, but because it's already so much lighter than ALU manufacturers can afford to over-build for now.
banna Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 Hey can you guys lower your seats before taking these photos. These bikes look dumb with the seat above the bars like that, and I challenge you to ride a decent line with your arse so high in the air Aah, but you see, it's only the really skilled riders who can run a DH course with their seats in the XC position.
Iwan Kemp Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 And if that doesn't help maybe this will: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTqh0ju5Z2o
banna Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 Tough as nails. Had a SL before and even that took some serious abuse. My riding buddy's Alu frame rear tri gave way and we ride together 95% of the time and do 100% the same stuff. Even though I look after my stuff I don't wrap it in cotton to go down the mountain. I often do DH runs (Paarl / Tokai / Eden) on the HD (did on the SL as well) and haven't had any issues. Rumor is MOST carbon frames can still drop a lot of weight, but because it's already so much lighter than ALU manufacturers can afford to over-build for now. Awesome thx. Ja, I'd rather them overbuild the carbon frames. I have a GT Zaskar carbon frame and every time I go out riding with it (which is not that often, seeing that AM riding is soooo much more fun) I expect to hear it crack!
Iwan Kemp Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) AND...if none of that helps I might as well post this: [Pics that make you think Why The Face!] Edited June 23, 2011 by The Crow
grb285 Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 Crow, none of these pics show that a carbon frame will survive a sharp impact. These pics all show it doing what it's designed to do. I'd like to see a before/after pic of a frame like that smacking a tree on a DH crash, or getting crashed in a rock garden. I've picked up bikes i've crashed on and seen dents etc that without a doubt would kill a frame like that. Awesome bikes though, but you need to be able to properly afford a carbon frame to ride one..
Iwan Kemp Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 Also, remember that no amount of over-build will or can compensate for not riding smooth. There are some guys who do BIG stuff on their HD's, but most of them are smooth riders. Look at the Syndicate guys, they are riding Carbon rims in an environment where a technical failure is absolutely unaccepted. And according to an insider they haven't busted a single rim since going carbon.
Iwan Kemp Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/takeabao/23816804-0909Fade2Black_LS082.jpg
Iwan Kemp Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/takeabao/23816803-0909Fade2Black_LS141.jpg
grb285 Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/takeabao/23816803-0909Fade2Black_LS141.jpgsick photo
Nobody Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 I cant find that video of the jump in san francisco (I think)
Iwan Kemp Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 I think there's a valid argument for both sides. Crashing a bike into a tree also depends on angle and how the energy gets transferred. I've seen alu frames snap in half. I have also seen three SC Superlights cracked during one epic! Same with Spez Epic. And although I believe the HD can put up with a lot of abuse, I wouldn't buy one for proper DH courses or Freeriding. But I would consider a DH carbon frame for that. This guy has crashed his bike more than he is willing to admit. Frame is still going strong without any dents. http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b26/takeabao/ow.jpg
MoreTrails Posted June 23, 2011 Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) What trail is that Crow? The top photo as well....? Edited June 23, 2011 by MoreTrails
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