Coronation Double Century - 26 November

[Tiny K]

Can someone please explain what the "disqualification" issue is that is causing all the friction? Is it that the teams didn;t stop to eat or that they stopped and took on musettes?

 

Logically it will take one amateur team taking out one serious team by doing something similar from a moving car, and all hell will break loose... just stop, surely? Or am I over-simplifying??

 

If I remember correctly, last year the pro teams could feed on the go, i.e. from a moving vehicle.

 

AFAIK this year they said that all teams were to stop in front of the vehicle and feed. What they might have done is had two or so domestique's that stopped in front of the vehicle, took on musette's, and then caught the team and gave out food. To me that is actually quite clever and skillful if you can pull it off without causing harm to other participants.

 

Either someone feels that they narrowly escaped harm, feel hard done by that they couldn't do it, or I have the wrong end of the stick....

[Lucky Luke.]

Is this the thread where we line up to guess at why DC results have been contested?

 

Why no poll yet?

 

a) social teams panicked by reckless use of musettes, collective memory of LA takedown stokes culture of fear

B) Brothers Sport did not use the regulation picnic blanket for their 2nd feed

c) Daikin riders on cellphones call in chopper for gu airdrop

d) Anderson Transport obstruct the start with 18 wheeler 'support vehicle'

[Slowbee]

Nice one!! Make s me want to "get up off the sofa" for a race longer than 4 hours...

 

so what are you doing next year, round about november ?

 

the finish time was 5 hrs something .. we can be home for lunch.

[ROCKITRIDEIT]

d) Anderson Transport obstruct the start with 18 wheeler 'support vehicle'

 

i thought Anderson Transport were a 24 wheeler rolling obstruction (jokes)

[capeofstorms]

Doubt it, Brothers had to fly in half the Matlosana team to help them as it is... Feeding from the car the way they did can save minutes, and that could be enough to take them off the podium had they stopped.

 

The First team to finish with 6 of their own team members from regular racing hasn't even been mentioned here: Aurecon. No Pro's and All of them Subvets. came in 4th.

 

Yeh well done Clive Seebregts

[Thor Buttox]

so what are you doing next year, round about november ?

 

the finish time was 5 hrs something .. we can be home for lunch.

 

Howdy!

 

I am Thor, God of Thundering Along, not Testikles, Lord of Seven or Eight Hour rides!

 

But I am tempted... if I can get up the sponsorship for the liposuction and a decent, patient team I figure I could get to 7 hours. Knowing a little of what it takes to get to 5:30, I'm afraid I have to decline your early lunch...

[Thor Buttox]

Is this the thread where we line up to guess at why DC results have been contested?

 

Why no poll yet?

 

a) social teams panicked by reckless use of musettes, collective memory of LA takedown stokes culture of fear

B) Brothers Sport did not use the regulation picnic blanket for their 2nd feed

c) Daikin riders on cellphones call in chopper for gu airdrop

d) Anderson Transport obstruct the start with 18 wheeler 'support vehicle'

Polls are only useful for those common occasions when people have a) foresight, B) insight, and c) hindsight...

[scotty]

Popcorn on a Sunday eve, anyone...

[Thor Buttox]

If I remember correctly, last year the pro teams could feed on the go, i.e. from a moving vehicle.

 

AFAIK this year they said that all teams were to stop in front of the vehicle and feed. What they might have done is had two or so domestique's that stopped in front of the vehicle, took on musette's, and then caught the team and gave out food. To me that is actually quite clever and skillful if you can pull it off without causing harm to other participants.

 

Either someone feels that they narrowly escaped harm, feel hard done by that they couldn't do it, or I have the wrong end of the stick....

I guess it's all about everyone's safety in the end... the organisers need to (try) protect the people who aren't as fast or skillful. Is there a reason the top teams go off in the middle?

[Niner]

 

Never did any Brothers Sport rider feed from a vehicle. We did however have permission, as did all the top teams requesting this, to feed with bags from feeders giving the bags to riders. There is clearly a big misunderstanding here in terms of feeding from a moving vehicle which did not happen.

 

Why does there always have to be 2 sets of rules, one for the TOP teams and one for the rest....and why should the funriders drop out off your slipstream? Are they not worthy to be there or is there a rule?

[Lucky Luke.]

Why does there always have to be 2 sets of rules, one for the TOP teams and one for the rest....and why should the funriders drop out off your slipstream? Are they not worthy to be there or is there a rule?

 

The DC is a team time trial.

 

http://www.coronationdc.co.za/rules-and-regulations/

[Velouria]

If I remember correctly, last year the pro teams could feed on the go, i.e. from a moving vehicle.

 

AFAIK this year they said that all teams were to stop in front of the vehicle and feed. What they might have done is had two or so domestique's that stopped in front of the vehicle, took on musette's, and then caught the team and gave out food. To me that is actually quite clever and skillful if you can pull it off without causing harm to other participants.

 

Either someone feels that they narrowly escaped harm, feel hard done by that they couldn't do it, or I have the wrong end of the stick....

 

No - last year you couldn't feed from the vehicle either, however, like last year, if you were in a top team, you could request to feed without stopping (ie - grab a musette) .

 

In future, I suggest they have a bike marshal for each top team - to enforce the rules and look for people doing bad things. Then we won't have to wait on the results and there'll be no he said she said allegations...

[Niner]

The DC is a team time trial.

 

http://www.coronationdc.co.za/rules-and-regulations/

Thanks LL

 

So you are not allowed to slip stream, but why do the TOP teams think they are allowed to use the feeding bags?

 

I mean it is clear here

 

Feeding of riders MUST take place in front of their stationary team vehicle, which have to be parked completely of the road. No riders are allowed to have any assistance whatsoever, while still on the road.

[Niner]

No - last year you couldn't feed from the vehicle either, however, like last year, if you were in a top team, you could request to feed without stopping (ie - grab a musette) .

 

In future, I suggest they have a bike marshal for each top team - to enforce the rules and look for people doing bad things. Then we won't have to wait on the results and there'll be no he said she said allegations...

 

Why are they allowed to do this? This is not the TDF! If they want to be treated specially why don't they then have to 2 races....one for the top teams where they can apply their rules....

 

And another race where the fun riders ride it....see which race gets the most support....then maybe they (the organizers and the top team) will start to realise that without the fun riders there is not really a race.

 

Fun riders bring the exposure to the sponsors....!

[Lucky Luke.]

Why are they allowed to do this? This is not the TDF! If they want to be treated specially why don't they then have to 2 races....one for the top teams where they can apply their rules....

 

And another race where the fun riders ride it....see which race gets the most support....then maybe they (the organizers and the top team) will start to realise that without the fun riders there is not really a race.

 

Fun riders bring the exposure to the sponsors....!

 

Certain teams requested to be allowed to grab musettes. The support crew stands at the side of the road and riders pretty much stop but don't dismount, and grab a bag for them and a teammate. I don't think the social teams would be interested in this type of thing. In fact having ridden on pretty social teams for 3 years, and even one not so social team, we opted not to go for musettes.

 

I think Velouria is spot on - have a marshal for each of the teams deemed to be in contention for the overall and make sure the rules are enforced.

 

This business of other teams feeling they need to enforce the rules by protesting results is making big *** for an otherwise unique and well-organised event. Respect to the organisers for what they have achieved, but lets iron out the skid marks in the shammy before next year.

[Niner]

Certain teams requested to be allowed to grab musettes. The support crew stands at the side of the road and riders pretty much stop but don't dismount, and grab a bag for them and a teammate. I don't think the social teams would be interested in this type of thing. In fact having ridden on pretty social teams for 3 years, and even one not so social team, we opted not to go for musettes.

 

I think Velouria is spot on - have a marshal for each of the teams deemed to be in contention for the overall and make sure the rules are enforced.

 

This business of other teams feeling they need to enforce the rules by protesting results is making big *** for an otherwise unique and well-organised event. Respect to the organisers for what they have achieved, but lets iron out the skid marks in the shammy before next year.

The plot thickens, now it sounds like they are littering also?