Benjamin Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 Right, at least the ship hasn't sunk. Much better structure and overall a better performance. Not hundreds , but we'll take it. Few fellas stuck their hands up , Eben , Trevor, Lwazi, Schalk. But Heyneke, 2 words for you sir, say after me; PATRICK LAMBIE
dev null Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 Pat Lambie's defence is so much better than Pollard's. And once again I saw why I don't like old Nick Naks. He has no idea of attacking, even if he is OK on defence. Eben was a monster, at times keeping halve the Puma forwards busy, and beating most of his backs at defending a try that they should have defended.
DJR Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 I've got a simple solution. Let Cosatu pick the squad, including as many PDI's as they want. That must include coaching and support staff as well. And then let us see how well this "representative team" fares against the worlds top teams (or the Argentine's of this world. ) And how well the ticket sales will be for these games.Now you're talking.....give the Boks to Cosatu for a year and in turn let SARU run the trade unions for a year. Make a reality TV show of the whole thing. It could become a new extreme contact sport. Thank me later for the brilliant idea and just pay me my 10% royalties in Switzerland. BSG, Wannabe and Silverman 3
Boerklong Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 Now you're talking.....give the Boks to Cosatu for a year and in turn let SARU run the trade unions for a year. Make a reality TV show of the whole thing. It could become a new extreme contact sport. Thank me later for the brilliant idea and just pay me my 10% royalties in Switzerland.you are on to something here. Not bad. Not bad at all.
Bianchisti Posted August 16, 2015 Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) well i think the all blacks are really focused for this world cup https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=191&v=ji65WI5QLZIThey've been showing the history of the WC on World of Rugby interviewing players with an insert of John Smit talking about how they've focussed on this for 4 years leading up to '07. He mentioned "believe". Said something like saying you believe is one thing and acting like you believe being another. It meant you have to walk like you believe and look like you believe you're going to win the WC which every member of that squad did. They showed an image of Smit leading that team onto the field walking out the tunnel next to the English and I must admit the look on his face and the stride in his steps described everything he was articulating in his words through this interview so many years later. That really drove home for me what it takes to win the WC. The All Blacks look good. AS ALWAYS. But knockout competitions doesn't suite their style of play. Edited August 16, 2015 by Bianchisti
flymango Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 Right, at least the ship hasn't sunk. Much better structure and overall a better performance. Not hundreds , but we'll take it. Few fellas stuck their hands up , Eben , Trevor, Lwazi, Schalk. But Heyneke, 2 words for you sir, say after me; PATRICK LAMBIEAgree. I've never rated Pollard. I'd be taking Jantjies or even Goosen to RWC together with Lambie if I could choose.
Shebeen Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 They've been showing the history of the WC on World of Rugby interviewing players with an insert of John Smit talking about how they've focussed on this for 4 years leading up to '07. He mentioned "believe". Said something like saying you believe is one thing and acting like you believe being another. It meant you have to walk like you believe and look like you believe you're going to win the WC which every member of that squad did. They showed an image of Smit leading that team onto the field walking out the tunnel next to the English and I must admit the look on his face and the stride in his steps described everything he was articulating in his words through this interview so many years later. That really drove home for me what it takes to win the WC. The All Blacks look good. AS ALWAYS. But knockout competitions doesn't suite their style of play.You've got to remember we cleaned up england 36-0 in the pool stage (FdP bossed that game big time) - and then look how close the final became! For me we got very lucky with the draw for the knockouts there - only played england out of the 6nations/tri nations teams all tournament. top half had france/england/nz/aus and the bottom half was RSA/arg/sco/fiji. but we still had to win it. it's looking the other way this year. we're likely to end up in the half of the draw with aus/nz/france - going to have to do it the hard way.
Bianchisti Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 You've got to remember we cleaned up england 36-0 in the pool stage (FdP bossed that game big time) - and then look how close the final became!That's what I meant with knockout rugby. Last WC the Blacks did the same thing to the Frogs in the pool stages, and how did the final turn out? Low scoring one point difference or something?
Shebeen Posted August 17, 2015 Posted August 17, 2015 That's what I meant with knockout rugby. Last WC the Blacks did the same thing to the Frogs in the pool stages, and how did the final turn out? Low scoring one point difference or something?agreed. and the all blacks have been overwhelming favorites to win the tournament pretty much every edition we've played. Why should this year really be any different? for the boks, the pools shouldn't be an issue - scotland/samoa(again)/usa/japan.then it's likely to be aus=>nz=>england(at home). SO, a wobble in the pools might not be the worst thing to happen. we could take scotland's expected route rather eng=>ire=>nz
Bianchisti Posted August 18, 2015 Posted August 18, 2015 agreed. and the all blacks have been overwhelming favorites to win the tournament pretty much every edition we've played. Why should this year really be any different? for the boks, the pools shouldn't be an issue - scotland/samoa(again)/usa/japan.then it's likely to be aus=>nz=>england(at home). SO, a wobble in the pools might not be the worst thing to happen. we could take scotland's expected route rather eng=>ire=>nzI like the way you put it. "A wobble" is not uncommon but I get the feeling the Boks can’t really afford to send an under strength team into any of the pool games. They need to build on continuity after the Pumas exposed them in Durban. Focus on combinations once HM decided what his best team is. That 36-0 routing of the Poms you mentioned above was the Boks’ best game that tournament. Similarly last time around the All Blacks played their game of the tournament against the Frogs in the pool stage. So seems to be a trend that teams play out of their souls in the pools but then finals rugby is just mentally so different. I reckon for where the Boks are currently at, they really need to build their combinations/confidence and aim to peak by the semis and carry that through to the final. But now all this talk is starting to wet my appetite for the WC. Something I haven’t had any mojo for as yet.
Shebeen Posted August 18, 2015 Posted August 18, 2015 I like the way you put it. "A wobble" is not uncommon but I get the feeling the Boks can’t really afford to send an under strength team into any of the pool games. They need to build on continuity after the Pumas exposed them in Durban. Focus on combinations once HM decided what his best team is. That 36-0 routing of the Poms you mentioned above was the Boks’ best game that tournament. Similarly last time around the All Blacks played their game of the tournament against the Frogs in the pool stage. So seems to be a trend that teams play out of their souls in the pools but then finals rugby is just mentally so different. I reckon for where the Boks are currently at, they really need to build their combinations/confidence and aim to peak by the semis and carry that through to the final. But now all this talk is starting to wet my appetite for the WC. Something I haven’t had any mojo for as yet. Heyneke must know who his best team is by now, if not then i want him to repay some of his salary for the past four years! The way i see it - winning the pool is expected, we can either:* click and be realistic contenders going into the knockouts* bumble through and make heavy weather of it. coming second in the pool, would not be such a bad thing. as the draw from then is bound to be much easier coming third would probably see tannies vloeking on RSG.
dev null Posted August 18, 2015 Posted August 18, 2015 Heineke will probably use his second team against Samoa, to prevent injuries to his top players.
Shebeen Posted August 18, 2015 Posted August 18, 2015 Heineke will probably use his second team against Samoa, to prevent injuries to his top players.and suspensions from the citings that come from the expected fight(s)!
Shebeen Posted August 18, 2015 Posted August 18, 2015 I haven't really followed tony Ehrenreich's call on the rugby team, but someone pointed me to his twitter timeline. Tony Ehrenreich @TonyEhrenreich Aug 12 #SSRugby must know that only pressure will get transformation in Rugby. Heynecke forced to pick 5 black players by Cosatu.He is racist coach 5 retweets3 favorites Reply Retweet 5 Favorite 3 More Tony Ehrenreich @TonyEhrenreich Aug 8 #ssrugby @helenzille fire the hairdresser Meyer. He wants white team that is not as good as mixed team. Hope u can see that after 5 losses 10 retweets3 favorites Reply Retweet 10 Favorite 3 More Tony Ehrenreich @TonyEhrenreich Aug 8 #ssrugby @helenzille. Hope u white racist who want to keep rugby white , can u see that WP style mixed is better. Stop this Zille wit style 8 retweets1 favorite Reply Retweet 8 Favorite 1 More Tony Ehrenreich @TonyEhrenreich Aug 8 #ssrugby @helenzille. White affirmative action players must be stopped. SA got better when more black players on field. Viva WP mixed style 6 retweets6 favorites Reply Retweet 6 Favorite 6 More Tony Ehrenreich @TonyEhrenreich Jul 25 #SSRugby @helenzille you guys defend apartheid generational advantage of apartheid. Fire HEynecke. He should b a hairdresser. White coach 4 retweets0 favorites Reply Retweet 4 Favorite More Tony Ehrenreich @TonyEhrenreich Jul 25 #SSRugby @helenzille wit for purpose is useless. Give us mix storMers type team. Boere mafia and the affimative positions days r gon. Viva 1 retweet0 favorites Reply Retweet 1 Favorite More Tony Ehrenreich @TonyEhrenreich Jul 22 #SSRugby i happily support Stormers style mix team. Not Heineke @helenzille wit 4 purpose , apartheid mafia team. Include black star players 3 retweets2 favorites Reply Retweet 3 Favorite 2 More Tony Ehrenreich @TonyEhrenreich Jun 26 #SSRugby @helenzille hope u defenders of apartheid economic priviledges read Argus editorial today. Confirm the sad racist state of affairs 1 retweet0 favorites Reply Retweet 1 Favorite More Tony Ehrenreich @TonyEhrenreich May 30 ##SSRugby WP shows that the teams that represents all SA are the best in SA. Stop the wit for purpose teams. Its old @helenzille type teams 2 retweets0 favorites Reply Retweet 2 Favorite More Tony Ehrenreich @TonyEhrenreich May 30 Cheetas #SSRugby has @helenzille wit for purpose team.Sies. Mix the team with all SA if you wanna win. Stop defending Apartheid advantages 2 retweets0 favorites Reply Retweet 2 Favorite More Tony Ehrenreich @TonyEhrenreich May 11 Hey @helenzille twit followers. Still best place to catch #DA racist. NB i cannot respond to racist whites with more tweets than folowers 0 retweets1 favorite Reply Retweet Favorite 1 More Tony Ehrenreich @TonyEhrenreich May 11 Hey @helenzille twit followers. Still best place to catch closet racist. NB i cannot respond to racist whites with more tweets than folowers 0 retweets1 favorite Reply Retweet Favorite 1 More Tony Ehrenreich @TonyEhrenreich May 11 #SSRugby it seems when Jantjies came onto field. Lions turned around game. Stop with these all white affirmative action teams. Its DA style 1 retweet0 favorites Reply Retweet 1 Favorite More Tony Ehrenreich @TonyEhrenreich May 1 Viva workers of the world. Lets unite and stop the exploitation of the Liberals. @helenzille and her racist cabal defend apartheid advantage 4 retweets0 favorites Reply Retweet 4 Favorite More Tony Ehrenreich @TonyEhrenreich Apr 28 Trolls ask what will i do when @helenzille is gone. That one is all gone already. But i will find another common twit where rascist hang out 0 retweets0 favorites Reply Retweet Favorite More Tony Ehrenreich @TonyEhrenreich Apr 15 Hey @helenzille and her racist white cronies. If u hav less followers than tweets i cant take u serious. Not even your Mother does. U Idiot 3 retweets0 favorites Reply Retweet 3 Favorite More Tony Ehrenreich @TonyEhrenreich Mar 22 The media made @helenzille. Now they will expose her. HZ got nothing to offer but anti ANC cynicism. HZ knows she is nothing without media 8 retweets1 favorite Reply Retweet 8 Favorite 1 More Tony Ehrenreich @TonyEhrenreich Mar 22 Hey @helenzille and her merry band of closet racist. Anything to say about Mampara of week who attacks media freedom , when it critiques DA 3 retweets3 favorites Reply Retweet 3 Favorite 3 More Tony Ehrenreich @TonyEhrenreich Mar 8The most representative team won WP- sharks #rugby. Drop @helenzille Wit for purpose ideas you closet racist. Integrate and take country up
Blackbeard Posted August 18, 2015 Posted August 18, 2015 (edited) I haven't really followed tony Ehrenreich's call on the rugby team, but someone pointed me to his twitter timeline.Who is Tony Ehrenreich? He seems upset about something. Edited August 18, 2015 by Blackbeard Bloukrans 1
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