Cav' Posted June 14, 2012 Share Americans trying to slay an American What happened to -back your boytjies- America sucks bradwentzel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stringbean Posted June 14, 2012 Share And if they strip him of his tdf wins that will give Jan Ulrich 6 tdf wins yipeeeeeee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradwentzel Posted June 14, 2012 Share Maybe its a conspiracy to keep him out of Kona? Ok maybe not... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cav' Posted June 14, 2012 Share And if they strip him of his tdf wins that will give Jan Ulrich 6 tdf wins yipeeeeeeeLol first thing that came to mind when i saw - stripping of 7 titles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bianchisti Posted June 14, 2012 Share "...USADA outlined new allegations ....... saying it collected blood samples from him in 2009 and 2010 that were “fully consistent with blood manipulation including EPO use and/or blood transfusions.” So if the same rules applied to AC is to apply here, the athlete has to prove his innocence rather than USADA proving the guilt. That makes it very difficult for LA, not that the process can be deemed as ligit, but they can find him guilty easily (like with AC), but that wont settle any debate. Are they then going to strip him of his wins prior to 2009/10 if they prove this "consistency with blood manipulation" in the years 09/10??? Cycling and it's rules will be even more ****-up but the time we get to the ned of this saga.And why only now does all this evidence surface? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squier Posted June 14, 2012 Share And if they strip him of his tdf wins that will give Jan Ulrich 6 tdf wins yipeeeeeee Will it? Or will it eventually be given to some guy who finished 84th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted June 14, 2012 Share The case is against: Johan Bruyneel (team director)Dr. Pedro Celaya (team doctor)Dr. Luis Garcia del Moral (team doctor)Dr. Michele Ferrari (consulting doctor)Pepe Marti (team trainer)Lance Armstrong (rider) I think credit should be given where credit is due. These doctors are brilliant, from 1999 to now, not a single rider was tested positive on their watch. In that time, they have won the Tour de France 9 times (if I count correctly), while almost all of the competing riders have been busted. Perhaps they are the real heroes here.Not quite Fuyi Li was tested positive for Clenbuterol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted June 14, 2012 Share dont strip him of wins... just uncover the lies - the public will do the rest. let him live with some more lies. petatodd 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotty Posted June 14, 2012 Share Just for Scotty: Go Lance! Still reading up on it. Plenty to come out still, the charges have been laid, need to be backed up which up to now have been more he/she said/saw. USADA have used their top scientists to analyze the samples, one would assume now LA would be afforded the chance to have the USADA findings verified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lamber Posted June 14, 2012 Share Will it? Or will it eventually be given to some guy who finished 84th? Was thinking the same thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed Posted June 14, 2012 Share Still reading up on it. Plenty to come out still, the charges have been laid, need to be backed up which up to now have been more he/she said/saw. USADA have used their top scientists to analyze the samples, one would assume now LA would be afforded the chance to have the USADA findings verified. Yeah, that component of this is going to be interesting as it seems to hinge on irregular values rather than positives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonus Posted June 14, 2012 Share Was thinking the same thing I wonder how far back would you have to go? :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iwan Kemp Posted June 14, 2012 Share That is well written, makes perfect sense Yip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlinkFan Posted June 14, 2012 Share BORING!!!!Yawn Just out of curiosity: Do you guys frequently go to the movies, buy tickets for a romcom, then go into the cinema, wait for the movie to start, and then yell "Boring!" before walking out? Niner and petatodd 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tubehunter Posted June 14, 2012 Share I guess this will never end until they find LA guilty of something! Anyone who has any idea of the physical demands of successfully competing at the pro level will know that the whole methodolgy of testing opens itself up to everyone being on something as bclark's post so correctly calls it. Everyone is on some cocktail trying to get their levels up to the absolute limits prescribed by WADA and co. The only good thing that could come of this is for someone to come up with a better testing protocol with a completely new methodology! Roer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted June 14, 2012 Share USADA is like a bulldog.They promised in earlier media statements that they will not let it go, even if the Feds stopped investigating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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