PhilipV Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Having been there and done that I can say the epic is overrated. Do it if you have a compulsion to tick it off your bucket list. But unless they change their mindset wrt route (as in totally change it) I can gaurantee you that you will enjoy the J2C a lot more.Epic for bragging rights and to test yourself and to tick it off.J2C for the ride, people, route, views, experience and adventure. Even if I was sponsored I would choose J2C over Epic.
Spinnekop Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Done both and MorewoodMad sums it up perfectly: Epic if its important to tell people that you did the Epic.J2C if you want a sense of journey, ride a balanced route, get the benefit of a smaller field and want to be able to socialize with other riders afterwards and recover properly for the next day. So J2C any day again! Added bonus for the J2C is that you get to RIDE your bike instead of pushing it.....
amoryns Posted June 19, 2012 Author Posted June 19, 2012 Done both and MorewoodMad sums it up perfectly: So J2C any day again! Added bonus for the J2C is that you get to RIDE your bike instead of pushing it.....en jy kry 3 meals included in die prys instead of net 2 ;-0
Wonder Woman Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 If it is your only chance of doing Epic, maybe you should take the opportunity?? If I had someone sponsoring me, i'd do epic.
kosmonooit Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Done neither but j2C is on my to-do list. Epic is way too serious and corporate for me, although I follow it like I do World Cups and other events where the Worlds Elites come to play. Besides I don't think I could stomach all that Woolies food.
nochain Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Neither...Cape Pioneer Trek Doing my first one this year!!Can't wait.... As far as the Epic goes I am glad I did it but also really can't understand the route choices.The amount of pushing you had to do even if you are in the front say 20 % of the field is just crazy.It is like someone already said......very frustrating because climbing big mountains is what makes Mtbing amazing to me but then I want to be able to ride the whole climb or at least 95% of it.
amoryns Posted June 19, 2012 Author Posted June 19, 2012 If it is your only chance of doing Epic, maybe you should take the opportunity?? If I had someone sponsoring me, i'd do epic. only chance to do it.....
I FLY Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Via a friend I have the opportunity to ride all 3 ( Epic, Pioneer and J2C) on a sponsored entry. The "new" Epic route and the "compete with Epic" Pioneer route do nothing for me so I have declined those two. I will do J2C again next year.
andydude Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 I will get grilled for this and beaten by the hub-race snakes and professionals, but the same amount of training. How could you Dangle... HOW COULD YOU... ... have such a beautiful woman as your avatar picture? I think I love her. Wyatt Earp 1
FBSP Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Are you a pro? If so, do The Epic as you may get UCI points. If you are a MTB-er who is looking to have fun, ride hard/or not, want to enjoy the best trails our country has to offer, then the J2C is the best event you can ever do, no matter where in the world you are. Half, yes, half the amount of people, but the same size race in terms of organization and resources, ie:catering, supplies, support. You can miss a day and re-join (the very least one can expect for paying top dollar for an entry). J2C is an event created by people who want to have fun and want you to have fun, whilst riding your bike, not by an ex banker who cares about drop out figures and how many world champions are taking part and who is intent on making money. Epic costs R3142/person/day, J2C costs R1333/p/p/d, go figure! Do the research. People returning to an event is what is important, not how many new comers the event attracts. The Epic, for people in the know, has been done, and people have moved on. If you wanna race and have something to prove to your mates and have a big ego to parade, do the Epic (once) get the bag and put the sticker on your top tube so everyone can see, then go and do the J2C for a real, fun packed, adreneline filled, memory that will change the way you think about South Africa and the country we live in. Its South African, for South Africans, by South Africans, it s as home grown and as local as you can imagine, but as good as any race anywhere else. I have done both (2xEpic-05 and 09) and all 3 J2C's and its not a comparisson. If you're a guy who loves riding and wants a relaxed vibe and a brilliant memory, spend your money wisely- go J2C. RockCoach 1
Cav' Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Via a friend I have the opportunity to ride all 3 ( Epic, Pioneer and J2C) on a sponsored entry. The "new" Epic route and the "compete with Epic" Pioneer route do nothing for me so I have declined those two. I will do J2C again next year.Who's the friend - please introduce me
GLuvsMtb Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) Epic if its important to tell people that you did the Epic.J2C if you want a sense of journey, ride a balanced route, get the benefit of a smaller field and want to be able to socialize with other riders afterwards and recover properly for the next day.I'm being attacked in private quarters about my post, so just to qualify: I have not done either, but I can read, I talk to people who's done both (a batch down to the back markers), look at TV coverage and use my common sense to come to my conclusion. Why is it that people think that if you don't have first hand experience that you're not allowed an opinion? Edited June 19, 2012 by MorewoodMad
Gerhardc Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 There WILL ALWAYS be a diffirent element and MINDSET to these 2 stage races......in the EPIC it's about ego's and the best of the best....they will cut your board number regardless........if you do the joBerg2C, they WILL NEVER cut your board number.....they'll rather bring you in due to safety concerns,etc......and tomorrow there you go gain!! ENJOY THE RIDE!! With mindsets like that, the two are worlds apart..... The one is made in heaven for mountainbikers......the other one is created on earth for racers..... you decide which one fits where.....
andydude Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 I'm being attacked in private quarters about my post, so just to qualify: I have not done either, but I can read, I talk to people who's done both (a batch down to the back markers), look at TV coverage and use my common sense to come to my conclusion. Why is it that people think that if you don't have first hand experience that you're not allowed an opinion? I don't understand it. I joined the Hub and registered and everything to see everything and now I hear there's private attacks and arguments? It's like going to see Cats, but then they never raise the curtain!
I FLY Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Who's the friend - please introduce me I could but then I lose you as a friend
101SCC Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 101 are you from Seattle ?I love the coffee, saying that, I popped in to Brooklyn and sat down for a Cappucino Grande, it was not up to the usual standard, the first time ever to be honest I did have the best choc-chip muffin I ever sank my teeth in to Yup, PM me your contact details and I will get Greg in JHB to sort it out for you.Glad you liked the Cookie! Let's sort out the Cappuccino disaster!
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