Tumbleweed Posted May 27, 2013 Share Indeed, personally I believe Wiggins deserves the opportunity to defend his title, how he got is not the point, he remains the yellow jersey holder, and I think retains the right to defend it, to "demote" him as it were to a support rider to Froome shows, in my opinion, poor form by SKY and an a lack of respect for him as an athlete in the team. I think Froome is a great athlete, dont misunderstand me, but he is not the holder of the jersey. As for Uran, well what can we say, I have long believed he is Grand Tour podium material, unfortunately, like Cavendish, he needs to find another team if he is to be afforded that opportunity, at SKY right now there is an abundance of "chiefs" so he will unfortunately remain an "Indian" there for the foreseeable future if he decides to stay. I reckon the idiot in all of this is Brailsford. He's doing a Bruyneel. T-Bob 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121276-giro-ditalia-2013/page/20/#findComment-1918224 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted May 27, 2013 Share Carlton Kirby.taught by the great David Dufflield, poached by Sky Sports from Eurosport this season. Most of them are freelancers, Carlton also does motor sport of which he is quite knowledgeable, but I find him a tad irritating. For the Giro on Eurosport we had the absolutely awesome Sean Kelly plus some other Irishman who's name escapes me, he was very good. David Harmon, the regular commentator (also a freelancer) is taking a break until the tour, he is really excellent as the lead. Sean kinds sits in there and lets forth with the occasion gems of wisdom and insight. Grumps if you enjoyed Carlton, you would love these guys, Too bad we cant get Eurosport over the air here. carbon29er 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121276-giro-ditalia-2013/page/20/#findComment-1918284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmonooit Posted May 27, 2013 Share I reckon the idiot in all of this is Brailsford. He's doing a Bruyneel. In what way? playing them up against each other? Rigo is apparently moving to OPQS next year. I reckon Chris might get gatful and move on as well if he can, Enough games, the time is now, why must he play second fiddle to that tempestuous premi donna again. Chris should think of going green imho. Edited May 27, 2013 by kosmonooit dracs 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121276-giro-ditalia-2013/page/20/#findComment-1918302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tumbleweed Posted May 27, 2013 Share In what way? playing them up against each other? Rigo is,apparently moving to OPL next year. I reckon Chris might get gatful and move on as well if he can, Enough games, the time is now, why must he play second fiddle to that tempestuous premi donna again. Chris should think of going green imho. Bruyneel insisted that Contador was the team leader, then got wishy-washy about it when Lance signed on and started making noises. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121276-giro-ditalia-2013/page/20/#findComment-1918324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raab Posted May 27, 2013 Share As someone who knows absolutely nothing about road cycling, the Giro was awesome to watch.Really enjoyed the coverage, commentary and little battles along the race. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121276-giro-ditalia-2013/page/20/#findComment-1918357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bat-ass Posted May 27, 2013 Share The problem for Froome and Uran is that they probably on huge $ contracts at Sky. Any move would probably mean a pay cut, but the chance to lead a team and give TDF win a bash? I think Sky has beeeg bank account? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121276-giro-ditalia-2013/page/20/#findComment-1918361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcza Posted May 27, 2013 Share Indeed, personally I believe Wiggins deserves the opportunity to defend his title, how he got is not the point, he remains the yellow jersey holder, and I think retains the right to defend it, to "demote" him as it were to a support rider to Froome shows, in my opinion, poor form by SKY and an a lack of respect for him as an athlete in the team. I think Froome is a great athlete, dont misunderstand me, but he is not the holder of the jersey. As for Uran, well what can we say, I have long believed he is Grand Tour podium material, unfortunately, like Cavendish, he needs to find another team if he is to be afforded that opportunity, at SKY right now there is an abundance of "chiefs" so he will unfortunately remain an "Indian" there for the foreseeable future if he decides to stay. Grumpy you're probably right but is this only happening because Wiggo abandoned the Giro? What I do know is that the team must be unified else someone else will take it. On another note Cavendish is now 6th in all time list of grand tour stage victories. Merckx - 64Cippo - 57Petacchi - 48Binda - 43Hinault - 42Cav - 41 Nibali is probably doing the right thing by sitting out TdF, don't think the team is strong enough. Edited May 27, 2013 by jcza Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121276-giro-ditalia-2013/page/20/#findComment-1918369 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cippo Posted May 27, 2013 Share Grumpy you're probably right but is this only happening because Wiggo abandoned the Giro? What I do know is that the team must be unified else someone else will take it. On another note Cavendish is now 6th in all time list of grand tour stage victories. Merckx - 64Cipo - 57Petacchi - 48Binda - 43Hinault - 42Cav - 41 Nibali is probably doing the right thing by sitting out TdF, don't think the team is strong enough. Thanks for the mention but it's 'Cippo ' with two P's. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121276-giro-ditalia-2013/page/20/#findComment-1918379 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcza Posted May 27, 2013 Share Thanks for the mention but it's 'Cippo ' with two P's. EDIT Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121276-giro-ditalia-2013/page/20/#findComment-1918397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted May 27, 2013 Share The problem for Froome and Uran is that they probably on huge $ contracts at Sky. Any move would probably mean a pay cut, but the chance to lead a team and give TDF win a bash? I think Sky has beeeg bank account? Uran being courted by OPQS, it is rumoured. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121276-giro-ditalia-2013/page/20/#findComment-1918403 Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted May 27, 2013 Share I think Uran's contract ends this season. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121276-giro-ditalia-2013/page/20/#findComment-1918415 Share on other sites More sharing options...
rudi-h Posted May 27, 2013 Share Indeed, personally I believe Wiggins deserves the opportunity to defend his title, how he got is not the point, he remains the yellow jersey holder, and I think retains the right to defend it, to "demote" him as it were to a support rider to Froome shows, in my opinion, poor form by SKY and an a lack of respect for him as an athlete in the team. I think Froome is a great athlete, dont misunderstand me, but he is not the holder of the jersey. As for Uran, well what can we say, I have long believed he is Grand Tour podium material, unfortunately, like Cavendish, he needs to find another team if he is to be afforded that opportunity, at SKY right now there is an abundance of "chiefs" so he will unfortunately remain an "Indian" there for the foreseeable future if he decides to stay. i don't agree... any team in any sport should always play their best team / player. Wiggins isnt likely to win the TDF this year with the increase in mountain-top finishes and limited time-trial km's... Wiggo hasn't done anything yet this season to prove his form in any way. If he maybe thrashes Froome in the Criterium Dauphine or in the Tour de Suisse or any of the preparation races, then its a different story, but based on Wiggo's poor showing at the Giro he doesn't deserve to defend anything. Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121276-giro-ditalia-2013/page/20/#findComment-1918424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Man Posted May 27, 2013 Share Hopefully next year they give us a new commentator, can't stand his high pitch 'squeal', especially at the end of a stage, well done to Vincenzo anyway!!! I cant stand the commentator either... OHHHHH we have Nibali on the attack, OOOHHHHHH we have... WTF with all the oohhhhsss?? Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121276-giro-ditalia-2013/page/20/#findComment-1918429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted May 27, 2013 Share http://d4nuk0dd6nrma.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/GirodItalia_Tappa_16_045.jpg Raab and AryM 2 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121276-giro-ditalia-2013/page/20/#findComment-1918430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted May 27, 2013 Share Cadel doing a nr 1 while on the move. Teamwork, baby, teamwork http://d4nuk0dd6nrma.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/GiroDItalia_Tappa17_046.jpg Raab 1 Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121276-giro-ditalia-2013/page/20/#findComment-1918433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AryM Posted May 27, 2013 Share What a PIC! (The mountain/ Snow pic) not the p1ssing 1...lol Edited May 27, 2013 by AryM Link to comment https://forum.bikehub.co.za/topic/121276-giro-ditalia-2013/page/20/#findComment-1918437 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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