Cyclist down in Noordhoek just before Chappies

[Tubehunter]

Anyone get more info on what happened around 9:00ish on the last little incline as you head towards Chapman's Peak. I went by on the other side heading towards Black Hill. There were 2 ambulances, 2 cop cars and a fire engine all parked with emergency lights going, with the road sectioned off and the cops directing people by. There were a group of cyclists already standing around emergency staff who appeared to be stabilising someone.

Edited November 11, 2012 by Tubehunter

[Let's Ride]

Hope he/she heals up/ gets better soon.

[Edge_Design]

It's really sad hearing about all of these people getting knocked down now we're into road season, but after driving to Cape Point and back this morning it unfortunately isn't all that surprising. The number of groups riding 2 or 3 abreast on the Main road (with no yellow line at all to ride in so actually in the lane) or just riding aimlessly down the middle of the road astounded me. I passed 2 cyclists in the middle of the road (going opposite direction to me) and then a car about 200m behind them going around a relatively blind corner - if those 2 weren't knocked down after that then they are extremely lucky.

 

The DC teams seem to be some of the biggest culprits with groups of 10+ riders riding 2 abreast chatting and generally at a fairly leisurely speed (I assume they are DC teams from the matching kit and that you see the same thing every year around this time). Even though 5 hour+ training rides are boring, you still need to stick to the rules!

 

Just be careful out there and stick to the left in single file and everyone stands a better chance - I can guarantee there aren't many drivers who would enjoy knocking over some chop riding in the middle of the road! It can't be a good feeling...

[T-Bob]

We went through there at 8:40 and all was clear. Was it a collision or a crash?

 

Hope the guy was okay.

 

Had a close one with a polo going through clifton, apparently VW's don't have turn signals.

['Dale]

Yikes!

Edited November 11, 2012 by Puncheur

[dev null]

I have henceforth decided to do the most of my training on the MTB. Just crazy. I have only been back on my road bike for 1 and a half years and I already had a few close ones. My motorbike riding saved me a few times since it tought me to think for everybody else on the road.

Edited November 11, 2012 by Moridin

[Cippo]

There are lots of teams training and riding indiscriminately. This morning I saw a group easily more than 10 all in team kit riding 3 abreast going down lower main road towards town in the low lying mist taking up half the one lane. With the taxis barreling down there in morning thats just looking for trouble. Cmon guys lets be more responsible.

[Tubehunter]

We went through there at 8:40 and all was clear. Was it a collision or a crash?

 

Hope the guy was okay.

 

Had a close one with a polo going through clifton, apparently VW's don't have turn signals.

 

Don't know if a car was involved as there were no civilian vehicles parked in the vicinity that I saw. The fire truck was however blocking a good portion of what was going on on the pavement side.

 

Also not exactly sure of the time as I didn't have time on me, but rather riding about 1hour: 50 odd minutes moving time into a ride I started around 7ish, according to the

Garmin.

 

Slowed down to ask if everything was OK, but the chap directing traffic past the bollards they had put down had a bleak expression on his face.

 

Must confirm what edge commented. Quite astounded how inconsiderate and unaware the average road cyclist appears to be in this day and age. We are not bringing our share of the requirement to instill some consideration from motorised transport out on the roads!

[Icycling]

And if motorist played by the rules they meant to have learn't in getting their license - something cyclist don't need and and considering cyclist me even be younger than 10 years of age.

 

Overtaking check list

 

Remember, to overtake safely you must:

• Have a clear uninterrupted view of the road ahead.

• Check rear-view mirrors and clear blind spots.

• Signal your intentions before and after overtaking.

• Not exceed the posted speed limit.

 

Cyclist are traffic and road users and classified as vehicles on Sa road - so why do motorist not accept they need to do the same when over taking a cyclist or many cyclist even possibly riding 2 or 3 abreast?

[cadenceblur]

Can honestly say that some people ride like idiots. I too witnessed 2 guys '' owning '' the main road this morning. When he was confronted by a passing motorist, the one guy got quite abusive. What mood do you think that puts that motorist in when he approaches more cyclists further down the road? People need to wisen up as we represent a bigger community out there.

[Crankmaster]

I got there just after it happened. Seems like an Old guy in his bakkie hit the cyclist (don't know who's fault it was though).

The guys Femur was broken by the looks of things....big bend (lump) by his right quad....quite gross actually.

Needless to say i didn't enjoy the rest of my ride !

['Dale]

I got there just after it happened. Seems like an Old guy in his bakkie hit the cyclist (don't know who's fault it was though).

The guys Femur was broken by the looks of things....big bend (lump) by his right quad....quite gross actually.

Needless to say i didn't enjoy the rest of my ride !

 

Rough stuff.

[Icycling]

I got there just after it happened. Seems like an Old guy in his bakkie hit the cyclist (don't know who's fault it was though).

The guys Femur was broken by the looks of things....big bend (lump) by his right quad....quite gross actually.

Needless to say i didn't enjoy the rest of my ride !

 

If he was overtaking he did not do it safely - his fault no questions - if you have a license obey the rules you learn when you got your license or don't drive!

 

It is pointless us cyclist point fingers at cyclist - cannot recall when a cyclist killed / injured a motorist by hitting their car - we as cyclist need to stand together and insist that motorist obey the rules they learn when getting their licenses which cyclist don't need to cycle on roads!

[ibruegge]

Sorry to hear this, hope cyclist comes right.

[Tubehunter]

 

 

If he was overtaking he did not do it safely - his fault no questions - if you have a license obey the rules you learn when you got your license or don't drive!

 

It is pointless us cyclist point fingers at cyclist - cannot recall when a cyclist killed / injured a motorist by hitting their car - we as cyclist need to stand together and insist that motorist obey the rules they learn when getting their licenses which cyclist don't need to cycle on roads!

 

We all know that if the motorists simply showed a little caution when overtaking a cyclist we would almost never hear these stories and the experiences out there would be vastly different. The sad reality is that drivers show very little consideration out on these roads and part of the reason for this, is the type of interaction they get from cyclists. I don't personally care who is at fault, as the cyclist will ALWAYS be the one who comes off worst. Armed with this knowledge shouldn't we as a community be going out of our way to change the experience out on the roads rather than simply wait for legislation and then proper enforcement to do it's thing?? I would rather focus on doing something that makes a change today in my own way. Why is it so difficult for cyclists to engage motorists in a respectful and considerate manner when this is what we expect from them???? This is the point at which most argument falls down for me. Cycle being observant of what is happening around you. Don't aimlessly cruise along holding up traffic needlessly, so you can ride chatting to your mate. Where there's no shoulder ride single file, moving left and thanking the vehicles that slow down to give you space along the route or overtake leaving you room. Use signals so they know what you intend doing. Think for them as much as you can and as often as you can try to look them in their eyes whilst you move by one another. All of this simply means they engage their brain a little better knowing they have seen and contemplated you. Do this with a thankful gesturee and they will wave back more often than not, most smiling.

[Icycling]

We all know that if the motorists simply showed a little caution when overtaking a cyclist we would almost never hear these stories and the experiences out there would be vastly different. The sad reality is that drivers show very little consideration out on these roads and part of the reason for this, is the type of interaction they get from cyclists. I don't personally care who is at fault, as the cyclist will ALWAYS be the one who comes off worst. Armed with this knowledge shouldn't we as a community be going out of our way to change the experience out on the roads rather than simply wait for legislation and then proper enforcement to do it's thing?? I would rather focus on doing something that makes a change today in my own way. Why is it so difficult for cyclists to engage motorists in a respectful and considerate manner when this is what we expect from them???? This is the point at which most argument falls down for me. Cycle being observant of what is happening around you. Don't aimlessly cruise along holding up traffic needlessly, so you can ride chatting to your mate. Where there's no shoulder ride single file, moving left and thanking the vehicles that slow down to give you space along the route or overtake leaving you room. Use signals so they know what you intend doing. Think for them as much as you can and as often as you can try to look them in their eyes whilst you move by one another. All of this simply means they engage their brain a little better knowing they have seen and contemplated you. Do this with a thankful gesturee and they will wave back more often than not, most smiling.

 

I tend to agree with most of what you are saying - just bringing your attention to this post!

 

http://www.thehubsa....-cyclist-clash/

 

I think motorist are just quite a lot of the time just not aware as to the rules of the roads - maybe should not be writing this in this post. Yesterday going up Chapman's Peak quite a few of us doing about 23 km/h at the slowest point but just before we past this sign below a motorist had hooted at us but not overtaken, at the time we were doing about 30km/h - I point at the sign and gave a hard look at the motorist behind us - guess what no problem the guy basically drove behind s the whole way - we rode single except for when passing slower cyclist. Education and awareness is very necessary and by point at signage / solid white line plays a part in making motorist aware. So when a motorist hoot at you and then proceed to try and over take on a solid white line instead of giving the finger - point the finger to the solid white line - maybe it will make the motorist think a little the next time!

 

http://sphotos-a.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/21179_10151300309190310_1644690418_n.jpg

 

I sure this sign cannot be too far from where the accident happened today!

Edited November 11, 2012 by Icycling