LCHF - Low Carb High Fat Diet Ver 2

[Helpmytrap]

Double post.

Edited July 22, 2013 by Helpmytrap

[Mikesa9]

That's a rip-off DustOrBust - at R150 for 100 ketostix + R80 shipping from @flexia I would cancel that order and just get from her !

Hi htone. Can you be a bit more specific here on the contact details? When I Google @flexia, I get a reflexology web-site.

[Helpmytrap]

Hi htone. Can you be a bit more specific here on the contact details? When I Google @flexia, I get a reflexology web-site.

Search for her on the hub, otherwise "Irma - @flexia" <irmaflex@gmail.com>,

[tombeej]

OK to come back to what I’ve posted before about the carb continuum and that one size doesn’t fit all (some benefit from VLCHF and others thrive with a more relaxed paleo lifestyle)…

 

TLW has posted a few times how she’s not enjoying this diet, that she doesn't have energy or motivation to train, and that she’s missing fruit.

 

So TLW, my question is: if you aren't medically required to be on strict LCHF, why continue to bang your head against this wall? You’re clearly unhappy – start making some changes! A suggestion would be to look at adding back more carbs bit by bit and see how that goes. Like an extra serving of salad a day, or an extra helping of broccoli with lunch, or (god forbid) a serving of citrus fruit or an apple every other day.

 

This should be a lifestyle that allows you to thrive, not suck the life out of you. If you aren't enjoying it, there’s zero chance you’ll continue with it for the rest of your life.

 

Good luck

[Helpmytrap]

Let me try again,

Edited July 22, 2013 by Helpmytrap

[Pants Boy]

And there I did a 3h15 race in my first week and then a 17h30 training week in week 3 with one of the rides being 4h20.

From what I have read is that in the beginning stages of Paleo and LCHF dieting, one should do no more than a 3hr ride and for obvious reasons must be below threshold.

Yes, yes, but you're a fookin machine on a bike.

 

So in A bunch I came 2nd, 2nd and 1st and took 1st overall.

As the day progressed I felt stronger and stronger while the other guys got weaker and weaker, so much so that I did between a third to a half of stages 3's pacing.

Fookin hell. Point above proven!

[Helpmytrap]

Yes, yes, but you're a fookin machine on a bike.

 

Fookin hell. Point above proven!

I must admit that it wasn't the strongest of fields, about 6 strong guys including myself.

And thanks.

[htone]

W.r.t. the above posts, starting with TLW's desperation...

 

P.A.K has nailed it, TLW, if you keep consuming refined sugar, then you are going to keep craving sweet stuff. One of the FIRST things you should cut on LCHF is sugar (and that's the bitter truth unfortunately), even before you start cutting grains and simple starches. Here's the other thing - you are female, and I will put money on it that you are consuming carbs well in excess of 50g per day. Why is this an issue ? Because every female that I have worked with on LCHF has the same issue when it comes to carbs - your cut-off for ketosis is probably well below 50g (and probably closer to 30g) that is TOTAL carbs per day. You will need to run this low for at least a couple of weeks (I recommend 6 - 8) to 1. get your body to adapt to not burning simple carbs for fuel and 2. to break the "addiction cycle". From what you are saying it sounds if you are doing some of the stuff for LCHF but missing the important issues. Don't favour sugar at the cost of fruit - if you are craving sweet stuff then rather eat fruit - you can always trim that down over time, but 1 teaspoon of sugar can do more damage to your adaptation and carb addiction than you can imagine.

 

Fruit is not evil, but I think the way Dietdoctor phrased it, pretty much sums it up : "Fruit is nature's candy". You need to treat it as such and you need to see that as your treat. One large apple holds about 17g of carbs (that's just over 3 spoons of sugar and if you are female, that is half of your day's carb allowance gone).

 

Be strict on yourself initially and force your body to adapt and to lose the dependence on carbs, you will thank yourself for that later.

 

@Helpmytrap - AWESOME Bru !!!

[htone]

Hi htone. Can you be a bit more specific here on the contact details? When I Google @flexia, I get a reflexology web-site.

 

Have you found her ? I have sent her a PM to PM you....

 

And she is a reflexologist...

[Wet Ears]

According to the roylas we are doing something wrong!

 

London - Prince William and Duchess Catherine celebrated the birth of their baby boy with a pizza.

 

The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge were ecstatic after the birth of their son - now the third in line to the British throne - on Monday, but were also left hungry by the eleven-hour labour preceding his birth at 16:24 GMT.

 

To alleviate their nibbles, royal close protection officers were seen delivering two pizzas to the rear entrance of St Mary's Hospital in Paddington, London at 20:45, around ten minutes before the official announcement of the royal birth was made.

 

A carbohydrate packed pizza was an ideal snack to help the duchess - formerly Kate Middleton - replenish the energy reserves she will have spend giving birth. If she did not eat soon after the baby's arrival, she would have risked going into ketosis, a process where the body starts burning fat for energy, which can lead to nausea, vomiting and headaches.

[Helpmytrap]

Ohhh nooooo... not ketosis, the horror!!!

 

[P.A.K.]

I enjoyed reading some of the "free advice" on the ASG Sport site.

 

Here are some nice quotes

 

• Breakfast should be light and high in carbohydrate, cereals, toast and porridge are good examples.
  
• Carbo-loading before an event can increase the amount of carbohydrate you have stored by 30%.
  
• During a marathon, more than two thirds of your energy comes from carbohydrate. Your body can store a limited amount of carbohydrate and as the kilometers tick by you will quickly deplete that store. As your carb level falls, so does your energy, and you will find it harder to maintain your pace. If that level continues to drop you could hit the dreaded ‘wall’ – where your carb stores are so depleted that your muscles are forced to rely on fat as fuel. The body finds it hard to convert fat to energy, which adds to the strain you’re under.
  
• To ensure you have optimum carbohydrate levels on race day, you should carbo load in the days leading up to your event and consume carbohydrate during the marathon.
  
• Your body can absorb a maximum of about 60g of carbohydrate per hour from gels
  
• Breakfast should be light and high in carbs. Cereals, toast and porridge are good options. Drink 500ml of EnergySource for additional carbs and to stay well hydrated. Take an EnergyBar with you to eat on the way to your race.
  
• Ten to 15 minutes before the race begins, take two gel Plus sachet (either EnergyGel Plus or IsoGel Plus) and drink 200-300ml water or ZERO. At the 40-minute point, take one Gel Plus, and another every 20 minutes thereafter. Use your expected finish time to calculate the number of gels you will need.
  

 

That used to be me (and I'm not even a proper weekend warrior!). Gels, gels, gels on each ride.

 

But like Saturday, I was almost 3 hours on the bike with just water. Had some lekker egg and bacon salad (without the salad) afterwards

[Man with no name]

I quote from news24:

 

"London - Prince William and Duchess Catherine celebrated the birth of their baby boy with a pizza.......

 

A carbohydrate packed pizza was an ideal snack to help the duchess - formerly Kate Middleton - replenish the energy reserves she will have spend giving birth. If she did not eat soon after the baby's arrival, she would have risked going into ketosis, a process where the body starts burning fat for energy, which can lead to nausea, vomiting and headaches."

 

Must be a bad thing that ketosis....

[Man with no name]

1. Oops.... just saw the above was a double post.
   

 

SHOULD BE A TRIPLE POST!

[HappyMartin]

Anyone old enough to remember the Woody Allen movie sleeper?

 

This guy gets frozen or something and is revived in the future. He is asking for all this healthy food and the scientists that revived him look on in horror. They say he should eat a big juicy steak. They say its so strange that everything we were taught is healthy turns out to be wrong.

 

I keep thinking of that scene even though I havnt seen the movie since the 70's

[Helpmytrap]

Today marks 1 month of LCHF.

 

I went to the doctor yesterday because after a week -coincidentally- of starting LCHF, a rash/allergic reaction developed on my neck and I've had it for the last 3 weeks. I gave my parents the benefit of the doubt and told the doc about the change of lifestyle. Instead of ridicule, he simply said; "I hope you're not trying to lose weight." After the opinion of 3 doctors they were able to conclude that it is an allergic reaction to something my skin touched...

So I'm glad to report that my GP is somewhat clued up re LCHF.