LCHF - Low Carb High Fat Diet Ver 2

[Da Vinci]

Wifey made me these muffins...

Eggs,creamcheese, macadamia powder and a small amount of cranberry's.Taste great!!

Will try and work out the values but must be very low carb....

 

Recipe please

 

[Topwine]

some more reading to broaden your perspective and knowledge ...

 

defending fruit … and other NONcomplex carbs

 

 

http://www.thenutrit...ncomplex-carbs/

Edited July 30, 2013 by Topwine

[nochain]

Recipe please

Will organise for you.

[Helpmytrap]

I'm glad to announce that before dinner last night and when waking up this morning I got nice light purple "++" result.

[HappyMartin]

Yea for fruit. Have in my lunch bag this morning, apple, naartjie, guava, banana.

 

I am having a real test of my diet at the moment since my arm is in a cast and I am in a bit of pain so no exercise. Lets see if I can keep my weight and mood stable. Yesterday was quite frankly a bit suicidal but that I put down to lack of exercise. Walking the dog almost 2 hours a day but that is so low intensity.

 

What really got my notice in the link Topwine was the knocking of PUF's. this is such a complex issue we can't look t one macro nutrient in isolation. My feeling is we have not fully unlocked the secret of good nutrition. Not sure we even have the key at this moment.

 

 

[Marge]

I'm glad to announce that before dinner last night and when waking up this morning I got nice light purple "++" result.

 

WOW, I’m so jealous! After 30 days in LCHF I’ve got ‘trace’ for the first time this morning. Question is, when will I start to lose weight….

[Roux 1]

some more reading to broaden your perspective and knowledge ...

 

defending fruit … and other NONcomplex carbs

 

 

http://www.thenutrit...ncomplex-carbs/

 

Interesting read this::::::

Couple of points:

• Sometimes my Resting HR is high???
  
• Racing HR zone increased by 10bpm as of late. Is it that I am tired or low on carbs(glucose/fructose/low GI) or both??
  
• Legs not strong in races. Did Cascades over the weekend and Hilton. I can be stronger...
  

Anyone experienced something similar?

[Topwine]

Interesting read this::::::

Couple of points:

• Sometimes my Resting HR is high???
  
• Racing HR zone increased by 10bpm as of late. Is it that I am tired or low on carbs(glucose/fructose/low GI) or both??
  
• Legs not strong in races. Did Cascades over the weekend and Hilton. I can be stronger...
  

Anyone experienced something similar?

 

Yes, I experienced similar and that is why I incorporated much more carbs bask into my diet. But going much further, I stopped listening to just one or 2 " guru's " and made it my priority to read much more broader and more specific, the opposite views of other highly intelligent people like Ray Peat, PhD .

 

http://www.functionalps.com/blog/2011/09/12/master-list-ray-peat-phd-interviews/

[htone]

Interesting read this::::::

Couple of points:

• Sometimes my Resting HR is high???
  
• Racing HR zone increased by 10bpm as of late. Is it that I am tired or low on carbs(glucose/fructose/low GI) or both??
  
• Legs not strong in races. Did Cascades over the weekend and Hilton. I can be stronger...
  

Anyone experienced something similar?

 

@Roux 1 - I have had the same and my theory remains that it is due to the adrenergic nature of ketones circulating in the body. After 4 visits to 3 different cardiologists there is still no clear answer, the only things that they all agree on are that there is nothing wrong medically, mechanically or electrically with my heart, I am fit and healthy and that I should listen to my body rather than my heart rate monitor ! I have added back small amounts of carbs on an experimental basis and it made no difference, so I have resigned myself to the fact that I can train at higher HR than other people my age.

 

I think the biggest artificial hurdle to get over is the old theoretical maxHR issue - and this is a very simple thing to explain or test. You can take most any two people of the same age and same fitness levels and I would bet you that there will be major differences in their HR's whether it is maxHR or restingHR - we are not all wired the same.

 

If you really need peace of mind, go to a reputable cardiologist or one of the Sports Science type institutions and do a VO2Max test. That will provide you with a full picture of what your body (and heart) does under strenuous conditions and you will better understand your own thresholds, which in turn will mean that you can then customise your training program around that.

 

If I did not have any other background on you but what you posted, my first guess (based only on the 3 things you mention) would be that you are tired / overtrained, so perhaps some rest will be in order ?

[htone]

WOW, I’m so jealous! After 30 days in LCHF I’ve got ‘trace’ for the first time this morning. Question is, when will I start to lose weight….

 

Well done Marge ! So you have probably cut back even more on your carbs than before ?

Keep in mind that you may not lose weight, in fact you may gain weight. If the assumption is that you have also started exercising, one could easily add muscle that would make you heavier...

 

So two questions;

in your mind, how much weight do you have to lose ?

If applicable, have you perhaps lost cm's anywhere ?

[HappyMartin]

I am 52 htone and my lactate threshold is 174. My maximum HR is 195. I don't think it's an issue. I like to think I have a motor that revs freely.

[McD23]

In terms of all-day exercise (like hiking in the Berg), my food of choice is v.fatty biltong mixed with coconut oil. Incredible stuff. My search is over, and I'm happy. A 750ml bottle of this mix will take me through an entire day of climbing/hiking

 

Hi Tombeej

how exactly do you prepare and carry above please ?

tx

[Helpmytrap]

Hi Tombeej

how exactly do you prepare and carry above please ?

tx

I've asked the same but he seems to be avoiding us to protect his recipe while patent pending.

[Topwine]

I am 52 htone and my lactate threshold is 174. My maximum HR is 195. I don't think it's an issue. I like to think I have a motor that revs freely.

 

When you exercise, your body (cells) is under stress. Adrenaline is used to facilitate making glucose from your body tissues, because you are low carb and therefore low blood glucose. Adrenaline and cortisol makes your heart rate faster. These are STRESS hormones and NOT healthy long term. I bet your cortisol levels are higher too. You are probably going low thyroid as well, if not already, and will also be at risk of high estrogen levels with all its bad consequences.

 

It is more complex than this but you have to read the literature yourself to understand the hormones involved better.

[Helpmytrap]

Marge, I must tell you that my carb intake has been in the region of 10-20g a day for the past couple of weeks. So it's been very strict.

 

Thought I'd give you guys a bit of a technical report.

This was my intake today excluding supper, which was an oxtail stew and broccoli. I might have eaten all the fat that was cooked off.

At 3pm I took the road bike out for a spin, just wanted 2hrs with a few hill repeats included. After a few hill repeats I thought I'd try my hand at some maffetone style training for the 2nd hour. Didn't feel too bad but was hard to maintain 160bpm with the odd intersection, especially at the end. http://app.strava.co...vities/70915451

 

Then before dinner, 30min after the ride I tested the ketones and was happy to see a nice purple, near "+++". Was nice to see after a decent lunch salad, which obviously plays no role i.t.o. ketosis. I'll now start to up my carb intake to see where my limit is although I'm not sure where to add carbs. (Never heard I'd hear myself saying that I'm struggling to add carbs maybe some milk if I go over from bulletproof coffee to fat shakes in the morning.)

 

Feeling pretty good.

[HappyMartin]

 

 

When you exercise, your body (cells) is under stress. Adrenaline is used to facilitate making glucose from your body tissues, because you are low carb and therefore low blood glucose. Adrenaline and cortisol makes your heart rate faster. These are STRESS hormones and NOT healthy long term. I bet your cortisol levels are higher too. You are probably going low thyroid as well, if not already, and will also be at risk of high estrogen levels with all its bad consequences.

 

It is more complex than this but you have to read the literature yourself to understand the hormones involved better.

 

I'm not low carb. Very far from it.Tried it and never liked it but did make many diet changes based on my experiences with the diet. Things like upping saturated fat. My resting HR is around 50. My hormone levels are all normal based on extensive tests done at the beginning of the year. Blood sugar was tested at 4.8. My max HR has always been high. I can hit 190 on a climb no problem. HR drops very quickly as well.