LCHF - Low Carb High Fat Diet Ver 2

[htone]

Just a word on PUFA's...

I would encourage wider reading on the topic. Making a blanket statement that PUFA's are toxic may be confusing to some - keeping in mind that Omega 3 and Omega 6 are both PUFA's.

Whilst flaxseed oil is not for everyone (and I'd be the first to admit that the taste of it does not appeal to me), it is still a valuable source of Omega 3 to someone like my wife who is allergic to fish and thus really has limited choices for alternative sources of Omega 3 supplementation.

Flaxseed also has a proven capability to reduce breast cancer, as well as several other health benefits which has been proven for centuries. I include some links if you want to do your own research:

 

http://umm.edu/health/medical/altmed/supplement/flaxseed-oil

 

http://www.webmd.com/diet/features/benefits-of-flaxseed

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyunsaturated_fat

[htone]

Reintroduced milk to my diet today, albeit only 100ml. Changed over from BP coffee to fat shake. Best part is that my postprandial BG was 4.4.

 

HMT - how is the milk addition working for you ? Any effects on blood sugar levels or are you ok as it is ?

What Attia says in the video you posted is also quite valuable to remember - if you time the intake of (milk/carbs) your food correctly, you are basically just replenishing your glycogen stores and not affecting your level of ketosis.

[Topwine]

Just a word on PUFA's...

I would encourage wider reading on the topic. Making a blanket statement that PUFA's are toxic may be confusing to some - keeping in mind that Omega 3 and Omega 6 are both PUFA's.

 

 

I certainly would recommend wider reading on the topic as well ! Making blanket statements about PUFA's (including Omega 3 ) so called health benefits , ( or the toxicity of sugar ), may be damaging to some and even be deathly to some ...

 

Start reading here,

 

http://raypeat.com/articles/articles/fishoil.shtml

http://raypeat.com/articles/nutrition/oils-in-context.shtml

 

Pay especially attention to the list of more than 80 scientific references below the detailed articles. Also note that these articles was not written by a sponsored "scientist" ...

 

An oil researcher^[0] spent 100 days eating what he considered to be the "Eskimo diet," seal blubber and mackerel paste. He observed that his blood lipid peroxides (measured as malondialdehyde, MDA) reached a level 50 times higher than normal, and although MDA is teratogenic, he said he wasn't worried about fathering deformed children, because his sperm count had gone to zero.

[Helpmytrap]

HMT - how is the milk addition working for you ? Any effects on blood sugar levels or are you ok as it is ?

What Attia says in the video you posted is also quite valuable to remember - if you time the intake of (milk/carbs) your food correctly, you are basically just replenishing your glycogen stores and not affecting your level of ketosis.

I'm still "recovering" from my cheese fondue Saturday night although Sunday morning I tested trace but by lunch time I was at + and I've been testing ++ since yesterday (Monday) morning. All is looking good, was happy with this mornings reading as it was a shade over ++ and yesterday was the largest amount of carbs that I've eaten in the last 7 weeks. It was in the region of 35-40g, 8g at breakfast, about 15g at lunch which included flax seeds and pumpkin seeds and at dinner I had a whole gemsquash and a generous serving of broccoli and cauliflower.

 

I haven't ridden since Saturday's 4h40 double loop at SBR but I did do some core last night.

To answer your question, I'm okay as is and will see how the legs feel on my ride later today. I'm also going to eat some double cream greek yoghurt as recovery with cinnamon and see what that does (probably no effect as stated by Attia.)

 

Supplementation, as far as Flaxseed oil goes, I take a 1300mg capsule daily (1g PUFA) and then 2 1000mg O-3 capsules as well plus a Magnesium tablet.

[krl747]

Try find me a diet to increases sperm morphology....

[Topwine]

Try find me a diet to increases sperm morphology....

 

Avoid as much PUFA's in your diet as possible.

Avoid as much stress as possible. This includes diets that cause stress like ketogenic diets and VLC diets.

Dont do too much aerobic exercise !

Avoid estrogenic foods and substances.

Eat more salt and calcium.

Get your metabolism up by doing the above things and eating more fruit and sugar.

Supplementing with Thyroid hormone if all above does not help upping your metabolism.

Edited August 13, 2013 by Topwine

[krl747]

Avoid as much PUFA's in your diet as possible.

Avoid as much stress as possible. This includes diets that cause stress like ketogenic diets and VLC diets.

Dont do too much aerobic exercise !

Avoid estrogenic foods and substances.

Eat more salt and calcium.

Get your metabolism up by doing the above things and eating more fruit and sugar.

Supplementing with Thyroid hormone if all above does not help upping your metabolism.

 

Thanks Topwine,

 

Unfortunately there is no cure for low morphology. There is also no apparent cause for it. There are some guys on the internet that reckon taking certain vitamins would work.

 

I have lost 24kg on low carb diet and feel very good. Did xsterra, half ironman and Sani2C this year and feel my performance was fine. Did test just after these events and then did not aerobic exercise and returned the same result. I am of the opinion that cycling etc. has no effect on this. But I am no doctor and this is just my opinion.

[Topwine]

Thanks Topwine,

 

Unfortunately there is no cure for low morphology. There is also no apparent cause for it. There are some guys on the internet that reckon taking certain vitamins would work.

 

I have lost 24kg on low carb diet and feel very good. Did xsterra, half ironman and Sani2C this year and feel my performance was fine. Did test just after these events and then did not aerobic exercise and returned the same result. I am of the opinion that cycling etc. has no effect on this. But I am no doctor and this is just my opinion.

 

No cause and no cure is certainly an interesting viewpoint ...

 

Losing a considerable amount of weight will leave you feeling good and perform better in sport. Having a very low carb diet (ketogenic) means you are living on adrenaline and other stress hormones. In the long run this is detrimental to your health and comes at a cost How long this takes depends from person to person. It is known that high volume endurance athletes tend to have low fertility ...

[krl747]

No cause and no cure is certainly an interesting viewpoint ...

 

Losing a considerable amount of weight will leave you feeling good and perform better in sport. Having a very low carb diet (ketogenic) means you are living on adrenaline and other stress hormones. In the long run this is detrimental to your health and comes at a cost How long this takes depends from person to person. It is known that high volume endurance athletes tend to have low fertility ...

 

Highly doubt that I produce Ketones and definitely not going to test for it. I just don't eat grain or refined carbs and I have never been a big fan of fruit. Don't eat sweets either.Eat an apple or a Banana every other day. Don't eat low fat stuff mainly because it tastes k@k and has a lot of refined sugar which again, in my opinion, is not that great.

 

Just to make sure, I see that you push alot of sugar. You are referring to natural sugar am I right?

[Topwine]

Just to make sure, I see that you push alot of sugar. You are referring to natural sugar am I right?

 

Don't know what gave you the idea that I push "alot" of sugar and how much that actually is, since that would depend on the individual and the other components of his diet, his hormonal profile and metabolic health. If you eat too much PUFA's and/or have hormonal imbalances, even small amounts of sugar (or too much protein) can cause troubles ito high BG levels, obesity etc. That does not mean that sugar is bad though.

 

PUFA's block the efficient oxidation of glucose in the cells by the mitochondria.

Edited August 13, 2013 by Topwine

[krl747]

Don't know what gave you the idea that I push "alot" of sugar and how much that actually is, since that would depend on the individual and the other components of his diet, his hormonal profile and metabolic health. If you eat too much PUFA's and/or have hormonal imbalances, even small amounts of sugar (or too much protein) can cause troubles ito high BG levels, obesity etc. That does not mean that sugar is bad though.

 

PUFA's block the efficient oxidation of glucose in the cells by the mitochondria.

 

Sorry, should have read mentioned sugar a lot. For interest sake, is that natural sugar or refined sugar? I rather enjoy reading up on food and different ways that we react to it.

[htone]

@krl747 - here's a nice synopsis about the benefits of varying % of carbs in diets from Paul Jaminet's site :

(http://perfecthealthdiet.com/)

 

"The Longevity vs Fertility and Athleticism Trade-off

I won’t enumerate studies here, but animal studies indicate that higher carb and protein intakes promote fertility and athleticism, while restriction of carbohydrate and protein promotes longevity.

 

In our book, we calculate the daily glucose requirements of the human body at around 600 to 800 calories, or 30% to 40% of energy on a 2000-calorie diet.

 

So a 30-40% carb diet is a neutral diet, which probably places minimal stress on the body.

 

A 40-50% diet is a carb-overfed diet, which probably promotes fertility and athleticism.

 

A 20-30% diet is a mildly carb-restricted diet, which probably promotes longevity.

 

Do we see diminished longevity with higher carb consumption in human epidemiological data? I think so."

[P.A.K.]

As a side note:Chocolate Mousse!

 

Every once in a while I really crave chocolate and I substitute with chocolate mousse.

 

I whip cream, eggs and melted butter together and then add coco, vanilla essence and sweetener (or you could use Nomu Skinny hot chocolate).

 

It tastes great, even though the texture isn't really moussey! Maybe someone can offer some advice?

[jcza]

As a side note:Chocolate Mousse!

 

Every once in a while I really crave chocolate and I substitute with chocolate mousse.

 

I whip cream, eggs and melted butter together and then add coco, vanilla essence and sweetener (or you could use Nomu Skinny hot chocolate).

 

It tastes great, even though the texture isn't really moussey! Maybe someone can offer some advice?

 

I use cream & Nomu skinny, takes some whipping but its like a very light mousse

[htone]

I use cream & Nomu skinny, takes some whipping but its like a very light mousse

 

Double cream Greek yoghurt and Nomu Skinny, then add about a scoop of protein powder as it makes it nice and thick !

[htone]

So I am travelling up to Jozi for 2 weeks of training this coming weekend. Next weekend I will be staying with my boet who lives in Old Irene Farm village, so I was thinking if there are any of you that are close to that area who may want to meet for a cup of java on Saturday (24/9) sometime, send me a PM and we can arrange that ?