'Dale Posted July 8, 2013 Share RE Quintana To debut in the TdF.At 23.And be such a protagonist. Very special. Hope to see more of this pure climber. Can he be shaped into a contender for yellow in the future. Why not? He's got the engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcza Posted July 8, 2013 Share That was my first reaction when their tour team was announced, but on thinking about it I think its more because the team had to throw weight behind Wiggo as an equal priority to Froome's tour ambitions. He had a very full program leading into the Giro as well so sure they didn't want to bring him in fatigued. Their attitude to him leaving will more likely be reflected by whether he makes the Vuelta team or not (and in what role). All things equal, he should probabaly lead Sky there... Although a fatiqued Uran would still be better than some of their current domestiques. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGR Posted July 8, 2013 Share RE Quintana To debut in the TdF.At 23.And be such a protagonist. Very special. Hope to see more of this pure climber. Can he be shaped into a contender for yellow in the future. Why not? He's got the engine.Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracs Posted July 8, 2013 Share Although a fatiqued Uran would still be better than some of their current domestiques.that is true! they have under-performed. Have to say I am not sorry about this - high time the skyborg myth is dispelled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOldGuy Posted July 8, 2013 Share I agree that Sky's tactics weren't great on Saturday - mainly in that the plan probably foresaw that their climbers would all be firing on all cylinders. However with only Kennaugh and Porte coming to the party they should have re-assessed. That said, perhaps Movistar should take more credit for Saturday (as well as Sunday) since Quintana's early attack forced Sky to go much harder earlier on the HC climb than they probably would otherwise have done... Without that attack, its likely Kennaugh would have released Porte with only about 3km to go which is more the standard Sky formula. I disagree on tactics wrt the yellow jersey though. I don't think that Armstrong or anyone else would give away a 1m30 advantage after the Pyrenees. With the individual TT just 1 stage away why wouldn't Froome want what is likely to be a 2minute+ buffer before getting to the Alps! Sky should be able to rely on OPQ, Lotto and Cannendale to control much of the racing on the flat stages until they get to the Alps on Saturday. No sure, which is why I say they will try keep it now, what I meant was LA would have waited a bit, maybe until the TT to take the jersey, or even later until Sat / Sun. dracs and SwissVan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dracs Posted July 8, 2013 Share RE Quintana To debut in the TdF.At 23.And be such a protagonist. Very special. Hope to see more of this pure climber. Can he be shaped into a contender for yellow in the future. Why not? He's got the engine.Yup. Here's a 1 July article that still reads very true on 8 July... http://theclassical.org/articles/nairo-or-the-tour-de-france-gets-its-russell-westbrook That most recent victory is perhaps most indicative of his scorched-earth abilities, in that the field he beat included Henao, Porte, Contador, and teammate Rui Costa. He isn’t likely to lead his team at this year’s tour, but the biggest race of them all isn’t immune to unravelling and disorder. Quintana and Costa will nominally be in charge of looking after the 33-year-old Alejandro Valverde. But should he lose any time before the mountains, the two young guns will be let loose. And we should hope this happens. For all we know about all these racers, there is one thing great, fascinating unknown attached to Quintana. It’s this: nobody really knows how good he can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted July 8, 2013 Share No sure, which is why I say they will try keep it now, what I meant was LA would have waited a bit, maybe until the TT to take the jersey, or even later until Sat / Sun.The nature of the previous TDF's have been very differentSame format year after year.....this one is very different and the teams have to adapt.He had no choice but to go for it on Sat.He is a bit of a parmantige hoender and human and was waiting to rub everyones face in it.I knew it was coming after that mock charge the day before I think it was GrumpyOldGuy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
'Dale Posted July 8, 2013 Share There are speculations that Sagan will be sculpted into a GC contender.His coach believes it's possible. Lose some bulk. Minimise the power loss.BOOM!!!! nickc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOldGuy Posted July 8, 2013 Share I think we shouldn't say Lance tactics but rather Bruyneel tactics. I'm quite sure Quintana will be white jersey, undecided if he will ever be grand tour winner but we will surely know in 2 weeks time. I hate rest days Hmm, I cant bring myself to even type the name B................L - personally I think the man is a dinosaur and the sport will be better off without him. ...but that said, I dont believe LA would have just followed along like a lamb either, he is far too clever for that, I think he would most certainly have had a say in the race tactics, and would have certainly called the shots on the road if things started going pear shaped. As for Quintana, right now he is "White" hot - BUT yeah, lets see next year, there have been many one season wonders, Rujano been a good example in point, but only the test of time will tell if he can stick it out, if he does, I think he will almost certainly be a serious challenger for the big tours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOldGuy Posted July 8, 2013 Share The nature of the previous TDF's have been very differentSame format year after year.....this one is very different and the teams have to adapt.He had no choice but to go for it on Sat.He is a bit of a parmantige hoender and human and was waiting to rub everyones face in it.I knew it was coming after that mock charge the day before I think it was - Ha, Ha, Parmantige Hoender - thats classic, where you dig that one up.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted July 8, 2013 Share :lol: - Ha, Ha, Parmantige Hoender - thats classic, where you dig that one up.? Cocky Think Bantam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted July 8, 2013 Share All I know is its going to be boring this evening without my recording for the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grondpad Posted July 8, 2013 Share Check out this comparison on the bicycling website. Staggering! http://www.bicycling.co.za/race-news/tour-de-france/tour-features/you-versus-the-peloton/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOldGuy Posted July 8, 2013 Share All I know is its going to be boring this evening without my recording for the day Yeah, was thinking the same, its strange how all of a sudden I am bored if the tour / Giro / Vuelta etc isnt on, under normal circumstances I read or do something else, but now I sort of feel like I am in limbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranswurm Posted July 8, 2013 Share Yeah, was thinking the same, its strange how all of a sudden I am bored if the tour / Giro / Vuelta etc isnt on, under normal circumstances I read or do something else, but now I sort of feel like I am in limbo. My HD PVR earns its keep I tell youNot sure about movies etc but the sport is amazing.Just check this last weekend all in HD.Lion,Wimbledon ,F1 and TDFWorth every cent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcza Posted July 8, 2013 Share I see RST is letting Frank go and Andy is taking a pay cut.Frank rumoured to Astana but now ruled out because of MPCC. Link - http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/14946/Astana-dismisses-reports-that-it-will-sign-Frank-Schleck-describes-stories-as-imaginative.aspx Edited July 8, 2013 by jcza Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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